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This seems like a gross misrepresentation of what the OP was referring to. What does this even have to do with the story at hand? > Person doesn't care. Nope.

by dao- 10y ago

This seems like a gross misrepresentation of what the OP was referring to. What does this even have to do with the story at hand? > Person doesn't care. Nope. She didn't know there was a risk. > Person is not an expert in the field but they educate people about it? Now they are a worse person quite frankly. She was treated by experts who told her what the problem was. Contact lens producers are experts too, and this person is cooperating with them.

aaron695 10y ago
Both the post I was replying to and my response was not about the story at hand as I said, albeit badly. When the person in the OP (original post) is in the comments I have no comment on the specific case. But will reiterate, when someone is getting revenge on their white whale, you need to take a step back when listening to them. It's why every law with a name on it (mostly girls names, let's be honest) has taken us backwards.
cr0sh 10y ago
> Nope. She didn't know there was a risk. It isn't completely clear from the article (and maybe she can inform us, because I'd like to know), but it sounded like there was a warning included somewhere, it just wasn't in bolded 48pt red letters or something...? I used to wear contacts for several years, but later switched back to contacts. I live in the United States, so I understand that may have bearing here, with our laws on medical information via the FDA and CDC informing things, which may be different from what the NHS did. I do recall, though, when I got my contacts and my lens cleaning solution and other stuff, that there was a pamphlet included in the boxes of both the contacts and the lens solution, that unfolded into this large-ish document with fine print (you know what I mean - such documents are included with every single kind of prescription drug or device, and often with every kind of OTC drug as well - especially ones involving the eyes, or which were once Rx only) describing everything about the contacts, about the solution, about care and cleaning, about the molecular structure of the solution (seriously!), and...about potential problems of improper care and other issues which could arise. I remember reading the whole thing, which I tend to do with all such pamphlets, because you never know what interesting and useful information you'll find (sometimes, you'll even find humor buried in them - almost like they don't expect anyone to read them, and so you hit on weird things many people never see). I recall reading about this particular issue, and so I paid special attention to dry my hands before handling the contacts, and flushing them well with the solution before I put them in. If I had any irritation at all before putting them in or afterward, I didn't wear them, and/or removed them - and put on a pair of glasses (which I had gotten with every new prescription as a backup). Was this information written in bold on the outside of the box or whatnot? No. Should it have been? I don't know. Again, the fact that it was included at all may just be due to our laws here in the United States. Furthermore, I'm not even sure if it would matter if it were included in bold print on the outside (or if, over time, this woman's campaign won't suffer in the same manner); much like the various "Are you sure? (Y/N)?" dialog popups on software, or the various "may cause cancer" warning in bold print on cigarette packs, such warning may ultimately be ignored instead of followed or read. Then we're right back to where we were. People will even claim up and down that they weren't warned enough, too (and make post-hoc rationalizations when shown the evidence that the warnings were there). There's not much we can do to fix this; this woman's campaign is laudable in trying to fix it, but I think that much like nobody reads those pamphlets except weirdos like me, many are going to ignore the message written in bold on the outside of the boxes - because reasons.
- reenw 10y ago
  Hello It's been a busy few days, otherwise I would have responded to your post sooner. I am afraid there is NO warning about water on contact lens packaging. There isn't a leaflet in the box. That's why I'm trying to do something about it. If you ignore advice, that's one thing. But if it's not given to you, that's a whole different issue.

by dao- 10y ago

aaron695 10y ago

Both the post I was replying to and my response was not about the story at hand as I said, albeit badly. When the person in the OP (original post) is in the comments I have no comment on the specific case. But will reiterate, when someone is getting revenge on their white whale, you need to take a step back when listening to them. It's why every law with a name on it (mostly girls names, let's be honest) has taken us backwards.

cr0sh 10y ago

> Nope. She didn't know there was a risk. It isn't completely clear from the article (and maybe she can inform us, because I'd like to know), but it sounded like there was a warning included somewhere, it just wasn't in bolded 48pt red letters or something...? I used to wear contacts for several years, but later switched back to contacts. I live in the United States, so I understand that may have bearing here, with our laws on medical information via the FDA and CDC informing things, which may be different from what the NHS did. I do recall, though, when I got my contacts and my lens cleaning solution and other stuff, that there was a pamphlet included in the boxes of both the contacts and the lens solution, that unfolded into this large-ish document with fine print (you know what I mean - such documents are included with every single kind of prescription drug or device, and often with every kind of OTC drug as well - especially ones involving the eyes, or which were once Rx only) describing everything about the contacts, about the solution, about care and cleaning, about the molecular structure of the solution (seriously!), and...about potential problems of improper care and other issues which could arise. I remember reading the whole thing, which I tend to do with all such pamphlets, because you never know what interesting and useful information you'll find (sometimes, you'll even find humor buried in them - almost like they don't expect anyone to read them, and so you hit on weird things many people never see). I recall reading about this particular issue, and so I paid special attention to dry my hands before handling the contacts, and flushing them well with the solution before I put them in. If I had any irritation at all before putting them in or afterward, I didn't wear them, and/or removed them - and put on a pair of glasses (which I had gotten with every new prescription as a backup). Was this information written in bold on the outside of the box or whatnot? No. Should it have been? I don't know. Again, the fact that it was included at all may just be due to our laws here in the United States. Furthermore, I'm not even sure if it would matter if it were included in bold print on the outside (or if, over time, this woman's campaign won't suffer in the same manner); much like the various "Are you sure? (Y/N)?" dialog popups on software, or the various "may cause cancer" warning in bold print on cigarette packs, such warning may ultimately be ignored instead of followed or read. Then we're right back to where we were. People will even claim up and down that they weren't warned enough, too (and make post-hoc rationalizations when shown the evidence that the warnings were there). There's not much we can do to fix this; this woman's campaign is laudable in trying to fix it, but I think that much like nobody reads those pamphlets except weirdos like me, many are going to ignore the message written in bold on the outside of the boxes - because reasons.

reenw 10y ago
Hello It's been a busy few days, otherwise I would have responded to your post sooner. I am afraid there is NO warning about water on contact lens packaging. There isn't a leaflet in the box. That's why I'm trying to do something about it. If you ignore advice, that's one thing. But if it's not given to you, that's a whole different issue.