> - why are people writing this stuff in Java. It's so slow and you don't have as much control on memory. Write it in C. When did we move on from this stage? D

> - why are people writing this stuff in Java. It's so slow and you don't have as much control on memory. Write it in C. When did we move on from this stage? Desktop java is a failure for good reason. Electron is an order of magnitude slower again. Most widely used desktop apps are still written in c/c++.