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> for being politically too extreme YouTube defines "politically too extreme" as anything that's slightly left of Fox News. Google's News tab now promotes tmz

> for being politically too extreme YouTube defines "politically too extreme" as anything that's slightly left of Fox News. Google's News tab now promotes tmz, the onion, and buzzfeed as "news" over sites that actually break news and typically go against the "narrative". http://i.magaimg.net/img/co6.jpg http://i.magaimg.net/img/co6.jpg There's a reason I'm dropping all Google products and services from my life.

ac29 9y ago
>YouTube defines "politically too extreme" as anything that's slightly left of Fox News. I think you mean right of Fox News? Infowars is notoriously full of bullshit, and conservativetreehouse blocks google entirely [0]. [0]http://www.conservativetreehouse.com/robots.txt http://www.conservativetreehouse.com/robots.txt
- naaaaak 9y ago
  No, Youtube is demonetizing anyone who disagrees with the narrative. Do you think pewdiepie is right of Fox News? Do you think buzzfeed, printers of the 4chan fanfic "piss dossier" are not notoriously full of bullshit? Have tmz or mtv ever broken any story besides celebrity gossip? Every single "news" organization that printed fake polls for months claiming Hillary would win by huge margins is still considered "News" by Google and not demonetized by Youtube. You claim Infowars is full of shit, but they were spot on with the election coverage and calling the polls being fake and oversampled. Why is Google's censoring of differing views tolerated?
  - deleted 9y ago
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  - thomask0 9y ago
    How were the polls fake when they were basically right? The state-polls for Wisconsin / Michigan in the end were wrong, but those states in the end were probably not polled enough to capture the volatility of unprecedented events like the Comey letter. And FYI national polls predicted a 1-4% popular vote win, those where pretty much on the money.
    - naaaaak 9y ago
      What polls were "basically right" in the month, weeks, and days leading up to the election? I recall most of them being very off the mark because of their methodology. There were a ton of polls that consistently oversampled Democratic voters, women, and other groups to show results that favored Hillary. This is what made them fake polls. They were being conducted to produce a result that would reinforce a narrative. Most Fake News (NBC, CBS, NYT, etc.) headlined these fake polls while not reporting sampling to their viewers. There's a reason almost all Fake News casters like Maddow were shocked on election night. They bought into their own lies and selective reporting. I learned of the sampling methodology from some of the very sites that Google now reports as "fake" and from Youtubers they have demonetized. "Polls are used to influence public opinion, not reflect it." What we're seeing is Google trying to control the narrative through search and monetization now. This is a more-extreme extension of the crap they pulled during the election (where Google search-complete consistently suggested positive things for Hillary and negative things for Trump).
      - naaaaak 9y ago
        https://twitter.com/JoshNoneYaBiz/status/852661406298198016 https://twitter.com/JoshNoneYaBiz/status/852661406298198016 Reminder of fake polls pushed by fake news. Almost all of the establishment media reported polls like this leading up to the election. They traded all credibility to shill for their candidate. But Google did, too, so such sites are still considered "news" by Google's standards.
  - Buge 9y ago
    Pewpiepie makes tons of money from Youtube. He's not banned. And most of his videos are monetized. The fact that he's the most successful Youtuber and that he has differing views that Youtube shows that Youtube allows people with differing views to succeed.
    - naaaaak 9y ago
      I never said he was banned. > more than a third of his videos had become demonetized http://www.polygon.com/2017/4/10/15246814/pewdiepie-youtube-family-friendly-twitch http://www.polygon.com/2017/4/10/15246814/pewdiepie-youtube-... > "I’m going to have [to be] family friendly from now on" What daring and original content that's going to be. How "liberal" of YouTube and its massively "liberal" employee base. Such diversity of ideas and language being allowed. Such tolerance.
      - Buge 9y ago
        Diversity of ideas are allowed. The videos are not removed. If advertisers don't want to advertise on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDJMZWzW8Ko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDJMZWzW8Ko that's not Youtube's fault. If not paying creators advertising money is censorship, then most other platforms have 100% censorship. Reddit, Vimeo, Facebook, Hacker News, Instagram, Streamable, Imgur all don't pay ad money to creators.
Buge 9y ago
Did you actually try those searches in that screenshot? I get results when I try them.
- naaaaak 9y ago
  Under the News tab you don't, and that's what the screenshots show.
  - Buge 9y ago
    Sorry I didn't see that. But there are a lot of factors required to get listed, including applying. Maybe they didn't apply https://support.google.com/news/publisher/answer/40787?hl=en https://support.google.com/news/publisher/answer/40787?hl=en And Inforwars called the Sandy Hook shooting a fake government action with child actors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap-DvMoiMOY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap-DvMoiMOY (1:17:00) so I can see why that wouldn't be included. The Onion is kind of disturbing, but at least it's labelled satire in the results.

ac29 9y ago

>YouTube defines "politically too extreme" as anything that's slightly left of Fox News. I think you mean right of Fox News? Infowars is notoriously full of bullshit, and conservativetreehouse blocks google entirely [0]. [0]http://www.conservativetreehouse.com/robots.txt http://www.conservativetreehouse.com/robots.txt

naaaaak 9y ago
No, Youtube is demonetizing anyone who disagrees with the narrative. Do you think pewdiepie is right of Fox News? Do you think buzzfeed, printers of the 4chan fanfic "piss dossier" are not notoriously full of bullshit? Have tmz or mtv ever broken any story besides celebrity gossip? Every single "news" organization that printed fake polls for months claiming Hillary would win by huge margins is still considered "News" by Google and not demonetized by Youtube. You claim Infowars is full of shit, but they were spot on with the election coverage and calling the polls being fake and oversampled. Why is Google's censoring of differing views tolerated?
- deleted 9y ago
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- thomask0 9y ago
  How were the polls fake when they were basically right? The state-polls for Wisconsin / Michigan in the end were wrong, but those states in the end were probably not polled enough to capture the volatility of unprecedented events like the Comey letter. And FYI national polls predicted a 1-4% popular vote win, those where pretty much on the money.
  - naaaaak 9y ago
    What polls were "basically right" in the month, weeks, and days leading up to the election? I recall most of them being very off the mark because of their methodology. There were a ton of polls that consistently oversampled Democratic voters, women, and other groups to show results that favored Hillary. This is what made them fake polls. They were being conducted to produce a result that would reinforce a narrative. Most Fake News (NBC, CBS, NYT, etc.) headlined these fake polls while not reporting sampling to their viewers. There's a reason almost all Fake News casters like Maddow were shocked on election night. They bought into their own lies and selective reporting. I learned of the sampling methodology from some of the very sites that Google now reports as "fake" and from Youtubers they have demonetized. "Polls are used to influence public opinion, not reflect it." What we're seeing is Google trying to control the narrative through search and monetization now. This is a more-extreme extension of the crap they pulled during the election (where Google search-complete consistently suggested positive things for Hillary and negative things for Trump).
    - naaaaak 9y ago
      https://twitter.com/JoshNoneYaBiz/status/852661406298198016 https://twitter.com/JoshNoneYaBiz/status/852661406298198016 Reminder of fake polls pushed by fake news. Almost all of the establishment media reported polls like this leading up to the election. They traded all credibility to shill for their candidate. But Google did, too, so such sites are still considered "news" by Google's standards.
- Buge 9y ago
  Pewpiepie makes tons of money from Youtube. He's not banned. And most of his videos are monetized. The fact that he's the most successful Youtuber and that he has differing views that Youtube shows that Youtube allows people with differing views to succeed.
  - naaaaak 9y ago
    I never said he was banned. > more than a third of his videos had become demonetized http://www.polygon.com/2017/4/10/15246814/pewdiepie-youtube-family-friendly-twitch http://www.polygon.com/2017/4/10/15246814/pewdiepie-youtube-... > "I’m going to have [to be] family friendly from now on" What daring and original content that's going to be. How "liberal" of YouTube and its massively "liberal" employee base. Such diversity of ideas and language being allowed. Such tolerance.
    - Buge 9y ago
      Diversity of ideas are allowed. The videos are not removed. If advertisers don't want to advertise on this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDJMZWzW8Ko https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDJMZWzW8Ko that's not Youtube's fault. If not paying creators advertising money is censorship, then most other platforms have 100% censorship. Reddit, Vimeo, Facebook, Hacker News, Instagram, Streamable, Imgur all don't pay ad money to creators.

Buge 9y ago

Did you actually try those searches in that screenshot? I get results when I try them.

naaaaak 9y ago
Under the News tab you don't, and that's what the screenshots show.
- Buge 9y ago
  Sorry I didn't see that. But there are a lot of factors required to get listed, including applying. Maybe they didn't apply https://support.google.com/news/publisher/answer/40787?hl=en https://support.google.com/news/publisher/answer/40787?hl=en And Inforwars called the Sandy Hook shooting a fake government action with child actors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap-DvMoiMOY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap-DvMoiMOY (1:17:00) so I can see why that wouldn't be included. The Onion is kind of disturbing, but at least it's labelled satire in the results.