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You can help us help you by a) becoming available in more countries b) Atlas LLC

by nitam 9y ago

camhart 9y ago
+1 for Atlas LLC
rhizome 9y ago
This was brought up in the Stripe thread the other day. I'm sure both are on their radar.
kcorbitt 9y ago
Agree about Atlas LLC: the best way to help "more companies get started and that they're more successful" is to help the companies at the margin -- the companies that won't actually get around to being formed if the prospective founder has to take 2 weeks out of his schedule just to figure out the legal and financial aspects of operating a side business. And for that type of company, an LLC is the no-brainer correct choice for the corporate structure. Source: a prospective customer. :)
will_brown 9y ago
There is a lot of echo for your sentiment, and no reason for Atlas to not create an LLC package for customers (at some point), but are You (and so many others) really putting off a. Starting a business, or b. Creation of a business entity (LLC) for an on going business until Stripe can form it for you as a service? If so, what is it they provide that isn't available - and cheaper - elsewhere?
justinclift 9y ago
With that LLC thought, does that still mean US based? Atlas sounded interesting to me (doing product dev atm), however it's based on incorporating in the US. The US seems like it's gone in a seriously bad direction for non-US citizens (I'm Australian, living in the UK), with no positive end to that in sight. So incorporation in the US isn't really a goer (personally speaking).
- markdown 9y ago
  Isn't UK incorporating a breeze? I'm sure I heard it can be all done online.
  - BillinghamJ 9y ago
    Yep. For the most basic setup, it takes 5-10 mins and costs around £5
  - mariusandra 9y ago
    From my experience you can do everything online + post, except for the bank account. However the reality might have changed in the 3 years which have elapsed. There might be some new bank that lets you get away with it online. However, the UK is moving in a strange direction as well. For a decent EU option, look at Estonia. Get a digital ID card from one of their embassies and you can use that with your computer to open a company and manage everything digitally.
    - cjrp 9y ago
      >There might be some new bank that lets you get away with it online. Yep, https://www.tide.co https://www.tide.co (even MetroBank which I used was all online and only took a few days.
  - justinclift 9y ago
    Yeah, that was an option until Brexit happened. My co-conspirator :) is based in Germany, so setting something up there might be the better idea. Haven't researched that at all (yet), as we're still focused on getting the foundational tech working decently first (progressing fairly well, it's mostly grunt work). But, keeping an eye open meanwhile... :)
    - nebulon 9y ago
      Hi, we have setup our company (UG) https://cloudron.io https://cloudron.io a bit over a year ago in Germany and used https://www.firma.de https://www.firma.de which was a breeze. They do all the heavy lifting preparing documents. Then you just have to show up physically at the bank and notary office to sign on the dates firma.de is telling you.
nicholas73 9y ago
+1 Atlas LLC. Safe to say many of those featured on IndieHackers are also LLC.

You can help us help you by a) becoming available in more countries b) Atlas LLC

by nitam 9y ago

You can help us help you by a) becoming available in more countries b) Atlas LLC

camhart 9y ago

+1 for Atlas LLC

rhizome 9y ago

This was brought up in the Stripe thread the other day. I'm sure both are on their radar.

kcorbitt 9y ago

Agree about Atlas LLC: the best way to help "more companies get started and that they're more successful" is to help the companies at the margin -- the companies that won't actually get around to being formed if the prospective founder has to take 2 weeks out of his schedule just to figure out the legal and financial aspects of operating a side business. And for that type of company, an LLC is the no-brainer correct choice for the corporate structure. Source: a prospective customer. :)

will_brown 9y ago

There is a lot of echo for your sentiment, and no reason for Atlas to not create an LLC package for customers (at some point), but are You (and so many others) really putting off a. Starting a business, or b. Creation of a business entity (LLC) for an on going business until Stripe can form it for you as a service? If so, what is it they provide that isn't available - and cheaper - elsewhere?

justinclift 9y ago

With that LLC thought, does that still mean US based? Atlas sounded interesting to me (doing product dev atm), however it's based on incorporating in the US. The US seems like it's gone in a seriously bad direction for non-US citizens (I'm Australian, living in the UK), with no positive end to that in sight. So incorporation in the US isn't really a goer (personally speaking).

markdown 9y ago
Isn't UK incorporating a breeze? I'm sure I heard it can be all done online.
- BillinghamJ 9y ago
  Yep. For the most basic setup, it takes 5-10 mins and costs around £5
- mariusandra 9y ago
  From my experience you can do everything online + post, except for the bank account. However the reality might have changed in the 3 years which have elapsed. There might be some new bank that lets you get away with it online. However, the UK is moving in a strange direction as well. For a decent EU option, look at Estonia. Get a digital ID card from one of their embassies and you can use that with your computer to open a company and manage everything digitally.
  - cjrp 9y ago
    >There might be some new bank that lets you get away with it online. Yep, https://www.tide.co https://www.tide.co (even MetroBank which I used was all online and only took a few days.
- justinclift 9y ago
  Yeah, that was an option until Brexit happened. My co-conspirator :) is based in Germany, so setting something up there might be the better idea. Haven't researched that at all (yet), as we're still focused on getting the foundational tech working decently first (progressing fairly well, it's mostly grunt work). But, keeping an eye open meanwhile... :)
  - nebulon 9y ago
    Hi, we have setup our company (UG) https://cloudron.io https://cloudron.io a bit over a year ago in Germany and used https://www.firma.de https://www.firma.de which was a breeze. They do all the heavy lifting preparing documents. Then you just have to show up physically at the bank and notary office to sign on the dates firma.de is telling you.

nicholas73 9y ago

+1 Atlas LLC. Safe to say many of those featured on IndieHackers are also LLC.