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Interesting. Don't hate the player, hate game, though. welcome to the jungle.

by ag_47 9y ago

throwaway88743 9y ago
As long as Stripe knows what they bought. The way I see it, they didn't buy a popular website, but a determined person willing to do anything to get what he wants.
- sanswork 9y ago
  You make it sound like he's murdering people to get ahead not that he is targeting a social network with content that is generally relevant and popular. The anything in this case is focused promotion.
  - throwaway88744 9y ago
    > You make it sound like he's murdering people You are putting words into my mouth. He clearly wrote: > I've made a ton of submissions in the past 8 months and experimented with various combinations of stories/titles that the HN audience might like, without always being successful. (Probably one out of every 4-5 submissions turned into an angry mob haha) 20%-25% of his submissions made readers angry. Nevertheless he kept going and tried, by his own admission, to micro-optimise his submissions to get visibility. Maybe my sense of ethics is different than yours, but please don't put words in my mouth.
    - holtalanm 9y ago
      so by your logic he should not do whatever he can to create the most effective submission possible? That seems counter-intuitive since really all HN cares about in the end is quality content.
      - minimaxir 9y ago
        > so by your logic he should not do whatever he can to create the most effective submission possible? Ideally without breaking the HN rules.
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    - sanswork 9y ago
      Given the number of posts on HN these days that seem to spur a mob of angry people I'm not even sure 20-25% is a bad figure. You said he's willing to do anything when what you meant was he is willing to work on optimising his work to better appeal to a specific target community. How does that negatively impact there community exactly? My sense of ethics precludes me from creating a temp account to mask my own identity while attacking someone else online so I guess you're right that our ethics differ.
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Interesting. Don't hate the player, hate game, though. welcome to the jungle.

by ag_47 9y ago

Interesting. Don't hate the player, hate game, though. welcome to the jungle.

As long as Stripe knows what they bought. The way I see it, they didn't buy a popular website, but a determined person willing to do anything to get what he wants.

sanswork 9y ago
You make it sound like he's murdering people to get ahead not that he is targeting a social network with content that is generally relevant and popular. The anything in this case is focused promotion.
- throwaway88744 9y ago
  > You make it sound like he's murdering people You are putting words into my mouth. He clearly wrote: > I've made a ton of submissions in the past 8 months and experimented with various combinations of stories/titles that the HN audience might like, without always being successful. (Probably one out of every 4-5 submissions turned into an angry mob haha) 20%-25% of his submissions made readers angry. Nevertheless he kept going and tried, by his own admission, to micro-optimise his submissions to get visibility. Maybe my sense of ethics is different than yours, but please don't put words in my mouth.
  - holtalanm 9y ago
    so by your logic he should not do whatever he can to create the most effective submission possible? That seems counter-intuitive since really all HN cares about in the end is quality content.
    - minimaxir 9y ago
      > so by your logic he should not do whatever he can to create the most effective submission possible? Ideally without breaking the HN rules.
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  - sanswork 9y ago
    Given the number of posts on HN these days that seem to spur a mob of angry people I'm not even sure 20-25% is a bad figure. You said he's willing to do anything when what you meant was he is willing to work on optimising his work to better appeal to a specific target community. How does that negatively impact there community exactly? My sense of ethics precludes me from creating a temp account to mask my own identity while attacking someone else online so I guess you're right that our ethics differ.
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