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Dear employees, please do not be loyal to your employers. You can be loyal to your boss if he deserves it but your employer is not a natural person, it is a leg

by dandare 10y ago

Dear employees, please do not be loyal to your employers. You can be loyal to your boss if he deserves it but your employer is not a natural person, it is a legal person and as such it can not be loyal back to you. If the situation requires you will be made redundant or replaced or moved - or promoted. There is a contract between you that defines what you owe to each other and if you are loyal beyond that you are essentially giving your money to some shareholder on the other side of the world. When dealing with a legal person always act in your own interest.

kemiller2002 10y ago
My boss actually "beats" this into people. He explains repeatedly that the company has no loyalty to you, and that you must have some sort of a life outside of work and extra work is giving more to the company than what you are paid for. I saw him threaten to fire someone for working overtime once, because he can't fix the staffing problem until the company feels the pain of having a staffing problem.
- throwaway9475 10y ago
  It's different if you get paid for overtime, though (usually time and a half). Companies threaten action against people working overtime because then the company has to pay more and that's a Bad Thing (TM), (even though the employees are providing way more value to the company than the company is providing to them), not because people want a staffing problem to make the company "wake up" or something. My mother doesn't work overtime out of the goodness of her heart, she just scrapes by and wants to be able to retire at a reasonable age.
  - brianwawok 10y ago
    At least in the US, 99% of developers are "exempt" and make the same pay if they work 10 hours or 100 hours. Overtime = "free" labor you can extract from your employees.
  - kemiller2002 10y ago
    Yeah, I should note we're all salaried. None of us get more money for working extra hours.
    - SketchySeaBeast 10y ago
      I'm trying to figure out whose idea IT professionals being salaried was.
- ionised 10y ago
  Sounds like a cool boss.
drdeadringer 10y ago
I learned this later than I should have, and from the experience rather than the telling.

by dandare 10y ago

kemiller2002 10y ago

My boss actually "beats" this into people. He explains repeatedly that the company has no loyalty to you, and that you must have some sort of a life outside of work and extra work is giving more to the company than what you are paid for. I saw him threaten to fire someone for working overtime once, because he can't fix the staffing problem until the company feels the pain of having a staffing problem.

throwaway9475 10y ago
It's different if you get paid for overtime, though (usually time and a half). Companies threaten action against people working overtime because then the company has to pay more and that's a Bad Thing (TM), (even though the employees are providing way more value to the company than the company is providing to them), not because people want a staffing problem to make the company "wake up" or something. My mother doesn't work overtime out of the goodness of her heart, she just scrapes by and wants to be able to retire at a reasonable age.
- brianwawok 10y ago
  At least in the US, 99% of developers are "exempt" and make the same pay if they work 10 hours or 100 hours. Overtime = "free" labor you can extract from your employees.
- kemiller2002 10y ago
  Yeah, I should note we're all salaried. None of us get more money for working extra hours.
  - SketchySeaBeast 10y ago
    I'm trying to figure out whose idea IT professionals being salaried was.
ionised 10y ago
Sounds like a cool boss.

drdeadringer 10y ago

I learned this later than I should have, and from the experience rather than the telling.