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> "Manipulation"? Really? Please. > This argument still seems strange and very petty. Those are not an arguments for anything. What I wrote still stands. It's

by lossolo 10y ago

> "Manipulation"? Really? Please. > This argument still seems strange and very petty. Those are not an arguments for anything. What I wrote still stands. It's clear that author asked which company use (writes) Rust besides Mozilla, not which company integrate third party tools that was written in Rust - it's logical.

burntsushi 10y ago
> Those are not an arguments for anything. Well, you cherry picked my comment. I had other thoughts---specifically disagreeing with your analogy---but I guess that wasn't important to you? If you (or anyone else) had a different interpretation than me, then that interpretation should have been immediately clarified by the link I provided and subsequent clarifying comments. Readers can decide for themselves whether it "counts" or not because they have all the information. > I thought you are not part of "rust evangelism strike force" but seeing what you are writing now, I need to reevaluate that opinion. Questioning biases is important. I encourage everyone to form their own conclusions. I personally think questioning my character and my intellectual honesty over what I said in this thread is extraordinarily petty.
- lossolo 10y ago
  > If you (or anyone else) had a different interpretation than me, then that interpretation should have been immediately clarified by the link I provided and subsequent clarifying comments. Purposely interpreting something differently while there is social majority consensus on interpreting it the other way looks like having an agenda, especially by someone that is heavily involved in topic in question like you are. > I personally think questioning my character and my intellectual honesty over what I said in this thread is extraordinarily petty. We are not bug free. When more than one random person questions my behavior same way I do not find that "extraordinarily petty", maybe there is something to it, maybe I should look at it. I am human, I have faults, denying that is another fault. > Questioning biases is important. I encourage everyone to form their own conclusions. I agree with you here. Anyone reading this discussion can make their own conclusions, some already did and were vocal about it - that's why we have this discussion in the first place.
  - burntsushi 10y ago
    Emphasis mine: > Purposely interpreting something differently while there is social majority consensus on interpreting it the other way I did no such thing. > When more than one random person questions my behavior same way I do not find that "extraordinarily petty" You're the only person accusing me of purposefully misleading people. > that's why we have this discussion in the first place I'm in this discussion with you because you're assaulting my character, not because we disagree about whether Microsoft is actually "using" Rust or not. I don't care what you think about the latter, but I am not going to let unsubstantiated bullshit about me personally go uncontested. Now, please either show some evidence that I've purposefully tried to mislead others, or---and I mean this in the nicest way possible---shut your trap.
    - lossolo 10y ago
      > I'm in this discussion with you because you're assaulting my character "Assaulting my character" - wow. Don't be so defensive, pride is talking through you, not reason. > Now, please either show some evidence that I've purposefully tried to mislead others, You provided all evidence that would point to that conclusion already in your comments and I already discussed those in my previous comments. You have any proofs that state otherwise? No. > You're the only person accusing me of purposefully misleading people. I am not the only one that challenged what you replied, I am just describing possible reason behind it after connecting dots. Read about defense mechanism, psychological repression, bias, denial and thought suppression and especially narcissistic defenses. Doing something purposely doesn't mean it was consciously. > unsubstantiated bullshit about me personally go uncontested "unsubstantiated bullshit" - This are conclusions I made analyzing your comments. I do not call what you wrote bullshit because I don't agree with it. Please be more civilized in this discussion. > shut your trap Clearly this one shows no one should contest your character. You are without any faults, I am sorry I dared to think otherwise.

by lossolo 10y ago

burntsushi 10y ago

> Those are not an arguments for anything. Well, you cherry picked my comment. I had other thoughts---specifically disagreeing with your analogy---but I guess that wasn't important to you? If you (or anyone else) had a different interpretation than me, then that interpretation should have been immediately clarified by the link I provided and subsequent clarifying comments. Readers can decide for themselves whether it "counts" or not because they have all the information. > I thought you are not part of "rust evangelism strike force" but seeing what you are writing now, I need to reevaluate that opinion. Questioning biases is important. I encourage everyone to form their own conclusions. I personally think questioning my character and my intellectual honesty over what I said in this thread is extraordinarily petty.

lossolo 10y ago
> If you (or anyone else) had a different interpretation than me, then that interpretation should have been immediately clarified by the link I provided and subsequent clarifying comments. Purposely interpreting something differently while there is social majority consensus on interpreting it the other way looks like having an agenda, especially by someone that is heavily involved in topic in question like you are. > I personally think questioning my character and my intellectual honesty over what I said in this thread is extraordinarily petty. We are not bug free. When more than one random person questions my behavior same way I do not find that "extraordinarily petty", maybe there is something to it, maybe I should look at it. I am human, I have faults, denying that is another fault. > Questioning biases is important. I encourage everyone to form their own conclusions. I agree with you here. Anyone reading this discussion can make their own conclusions, some already did and were vocal about it - that's why we have this discussion in the first place.
- burntsushi 10y ago
  Emphasis mine: > Purposely interpreting something differently while there is social majority consensus on interpreting it the other way I did no such thing. > When more than one random person questions my behavior same way I do not find that "extraordinarily petty" You're the only person accusing me of purposefully misleading people. > that's why we have this discussion in the first place I'm in this discussion with you because you're assaulting my character, not because we disagree about whether Microsoft is actually "using" Rust or not. I don't care what you think about the latter, but I am not going to let unsubstantiated bullshit about me personally go uncontested. Now, please either show some evidence that I've purposefully tried to mislead others, or---and I mean this in the nicest way possible---shut your trap.
  - lossolo 10y ago
    > I'm in this discussion with you because you're assaulting my character "Assaulting my character" - wow. Don't be so defensive, pride is talking through you, not reason. > Now, please either show some evidence that I've purposefully tried to mislead others, You provided all evidence that would point to that conclusion already in your comments and I already discussed those in my previous comments. You have any proofs that state otherwise? No. > You're the only person accusing me of purposefully misleading people. I am not the only one that challenged what you replied, I am just describing possible reason behind it after connecting dots. Read about defense mechanism, psychological repression, bias, denial and thought suppression and especially narcissistic defenses. Doing something purposely doesn't mean it was consciously. > unsubstantiated bullshit about me personally go uncontested "unsubstantiated bullshit" - This are conclusions I made analyzing your comments. I do not call what you wrote bullshit because I don't agree with it. Please be more civilized in this discussion. > shut your trap Clearly this one shows no one should contest your character. You are without any faults, I am sorry I dared to think otherwise.