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>It is one thing to deal with one of these things, but when you have to install ten to get The modern office large office is pretty bad in this respect. Really

>It is one thing to deal with one of these things, but when you have to install ten to get The modern office large office is pretty bad in this respect. Really not uncommon to see things like • Need to have Slack open • Need to keep an eye on Basecamp/pm software • Need to have Outlook open / check in on for email and calendar invites • Need Skype open because not everyone uses Slack • GitLab is open in another tab I've started counting the minutes that I use in a day just logging in to things with our SSO, because it has started to actually add up, haha. It has gotten silly.

treve 10y ago
> I've started counting the minutes that I use in a day just logging in to things with our SSO, because it has started to actually add up, haha. It has gotten silly. If you need to log in more than once, can you really call it SSO? =)
- falcolas 10y ago
  If it's anything like my experience, the trip from clicking on the button to open the app and wait for the myriad of redirects, before clicking through to the page you actually want to monitor is non-trivial (and sometimes doesn't occur if the tab isn't in the foreground). I don't have that many open, and it still takes me around 5 minutes every day to open them back up.
  - hdhzy 10y ago
    At least you have SSO! Imagine what if you had different credentials to each of these services (even logins)! There are big companies that operate like that...
    - bogomipz 10y ago
      There are also lots big companies that have "SSO" but it is half-baked or incomplete with regards to which services and you end up with MSSO - multiple single sign on.
    - sbjustin 10y ago
      Install 1Password and it's basically like having SSO.
    - kakarot 10y ago
      And why shouldn't he have different credentials? A password manager would make this a cakewalk.
    - eridius 10y ago
      Having different credentials would actually be faster. One key chord to ask 1Password to fill in my password and log in, and I'd be done. Instead, with SSO, every time I need to log in, I need to type in my email address, go through a bazillion redirects to Google where it asks me which of my accounts I want to use (even though I already typed in my email, and even though I only ever use one of those accounts for SSO), click it, often have to then enter my Google password and/or OTP code, then go through a bazillion more redirects back to the app.
finid 10y ago
I don't even bother logging out, ever. I just have them open in different tabs. Imagine having about 7 tabs open. By the time I'm finished with the last tab, something new has come up on the first tab I checked. Huge waste of time. I'm trying to wean myself from all these services, but it's not easy. This or that project is on GitHub, but join the developers on Slack. And I hate Slack.
- SomeStupidPoint 10y ago
  I turned all of my notifications off and use Pomodoro timers. If it really can't wait <25 minutes, they can call me or come to my desk. It's amazing how many things aren't "immediate" if you create a slight cost with requesting attention.
  - tp3z4u 10y ago
    This is exactly what I do! I find it very simple and effective. I set mine for 60 minutes. It really helps focus. 60 minutes is about as long as I can focus without a break anyway.
lettergram 10y ago
I want to add, I keep system monitor up 100% of the time. My favorite application is Microsoft Outlook, which consistently takes up ~50% of my CPU on my 2015 maxed out Mac.
AsyncAwait 10y ago
As a freelancer, I have EXACTLY this problem, so I started hacking away on my own solution. Don't want to shamelessly promote myself here, but if you're interested, link is in my profile.
- LeifCarrotson 10y ago
  A few comments that I hope are constructive. Looking at your page, I'm not confident you're avoiding the issue by which these tools proliferate: https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/ Your users and their clients are still going to be using Slack and email, but it seems like you're giving me one more thing to log into. You write: > Schedule your time spent and group distracting reminders and notifications in one place If this "one place" is a separate silo from Slack, Outlook, Basecamp, Skype, SMS, Discord, Hipchat, IRC, and Github...it's not the one place I'll need to check. It's the n+1th place. Now, if I can put my credentials into Calmbird (securely would be nice, but you can have the plaintext if you can make this insanity stop) and have it do the API connection to - or, if necessary, the nasty DOM-manipulation, Windows message hacking, and client-impersonating - to put all these services and their notifications in one place, that would be a solution to the proliferation problem. Also: > schedule automatic emails to your clients with updates My clients don't want automatic emails, especially from templates/digests. They want me to hand-craft them as if it was the most important thing in my life. And while they can understand a curt update message or a missed daily status notification, the real point of these updates are to confirm that I'm still on the project. If a message accidentally went out with a placeholder like "I'm still working on {todo-insert-task-here}", and I didn't know about it, that would be...bad.
  - cookiecaper 10y ago
    >or, if necessary, the nasty DOM-manipulation, Windows message hacking, and client-impersonating - to put all these services and their notifications in one place, that would be a solution to the proliferation problem. This isn't possible for web services due to the state of U.S. law. Speaking to a server without the consent of the server's owner is both a crime and a tort under the CFAA. There is also liability for copyright infringement, among other things. IANAL
krisdol 10y ago
That sounds abysmal. Slack is the only thing on that list I keep open., and I've gotten a pretty good set of notification settings configured.
gnaritas 10y ago
> I've started counting the minutes that I use in a day just logging in to things with our SSO, because it has started to actually add up, haha. It has gotten silly. I have a similar setup, and I don't waste any time logging into all of them because I simply always have them running. Why would you need to login every day? Are you shutting them down at the end of every day... if so, why?

treve 10y ago

> I've started counting the minutes that I use in a day just logging in to things with our SSO, because it has started to actually add up, haha. It has gotten silly. If you need to log in more than once, can you really call it SSO? =)

falcolas 10y ago
If it's anything like my experience, the trip from clicking on the button to open the app and wait for the myriad of redirects, before clicking through to the page you actually want to monitor is non-trivial (and sometimes doesn't occur if the tab isn't in the foreground). I don't have that many open, and it still takes me around 5 minutes every day to open them back up.
- hdhzy 10y ago
  At least you have SSO! Imagine what if you had different credentials to each of these services (even logins)! There are big companies that operate like that...
  - bogomipz 10y ago
    There are also lots big companies that have "SSO" but it is half-baked or incomplete with regards to which services and you end up with MSSO - multiple single sign on.
  - sbjustin 10y ago
    Install 1Password and it's basically like having SSO.
  - kakarot 10y ago
    And why shouldn't he have different credentials? A password manager would make this a cakewalk.
  - eridius 10y ago
    Having different credentials would actually be faster. One key chord to ask 1Password to fill in my password and log in, and I'd be done. Instead, with SSO, every time I need to log in, I need to type in my email address, go through a bazillion redirects to Google where it asks me which of my accounts I want to use (even though I already typed in my email, and even though I only ever use one of those accounts for SSO), click it, often have to then enter my Google password and/or OTP code, then go through a bazillion more redirects back to the app.

finid 10y ago

I don't even bother logging out, ever. I just have them open in different tabs. Imagine having about 7 tabs open. By the time I'm finished with the last tab, something new has come up on the first tab I checked. Huge waste of time. I'm trying to wean myself from all these services, but it's not easy. This or that project is on GitHub, but join the developers on Slack. And I hate Slack.

SomeStupidPoint 10y ago
I turned all of my notifications off and use Pomodoro timers. If it really can't wait <25 minutes, they can call me or come to my desk. It's amazing how many things aren't "immediate" if you create a slight cost with requesting attention.
- tp3z4u 10y ago
  This is exactly what I do! I find it very simple and effective. I set mine for 60 minutes. It really helps focus. 60 minutes is about as long as I can focus without a break anyway.

lettergram 10y ago

I want to add, I keep system monitor up 100% of the time. My favorite application is Microsoft Outlook, which consistently takes up ~50% of my CPU on my 2015 maxed out Mac.

AsyncAwait 10y ago

As a freelancer, I have EXACTLY this problem, so I started hacking away on my own solution. Don't want to shamelessly promote myself here, but if you're interested, link is in my profile.

LeifCarrotson 10y ago
A few comments that I hope are constructive. Looking at your page, I'm not confident you're avoiding the issue by which these tools proliferate: https://xkcd.com/927/ https://xkcd.com/927/ Your users and their clients are still going to be using Slack and email, but it seems like you're giving me one more thing to log into. You write: > Schedule your time spent and group distracting reminders and notifications in one place If this "one place" is a separate silo from Slack, Outlook, Basecamp, Skype, SMS, Discord, Hipchat, IRC, and Github...it's not the one place I'll need to check. It's the n+1th place. Now, if I can put my credentials into Calmbird (securely would be nice, but you can have the plaintext if you can make this insanity stop) and have it do the API connection to - or, if necessary, the nasty DOM-manipulation, Windows message hacking, and client-impersonating - to put all these services and their notifications in one place, that would be a solution to the proliferation problem. Also: > schedule automatic emails to your clients with updates My clients don't want automatic emails, especially from templates/digests. They want me to hand-craft them as if it was the most important thing in my life. And while they can understand a curt update message or a missed daily status notification, the real point of these updates are to confirm that I'm still on the project. If a message accidentally went out with a placeholder like "I'm still working on {todo-insert-task-here}", and I didn't know about it, that would be...bad.
- cookiecaper 10y ago
  >or, if necessary, the nasty DOM-manipulation, Windows message hacking, and client-impersonating - to put all these services and their notifications in one place, that would be a solution to the proliferation problem. This isn't possible for web services due to the state of U.S. law. Speaking to a server without the consent of the server's owner is both a crime and a tort under the CFAA. There is also liability for copyright infringement, among other things. IANAL

krisdol 10y ago

That sounds abysmal. Slack is the only thing on that list I keep open., and I've gotten a pretty good set of notification settings configured.

gnaritas 10y ago

> I've started counting the minutes that I use in a day just logging in to things with our SSO, because it has started to actually add up, haha. It has gotten silly. I have a similar setup, and I don't waste any time logging into all of them because I simply always have them running. Why would you need to login every day? Are you shutting them down at the end of every day... if so, why?