I think process is important. If there isn't some kind of method or process, it isn't really engineering. You can't build modern bridge or building just by goin

I think process is important. If there isn't some kind of method or process, it isn't really engineering. You can't build modern bridge or building just by going at it. My comment wasn't clear: scrum is sold the majority of the time as a whole new process and it's seen that way by most, from the minute they do the training. I've read the scrum book and to me it seems like a process that helps develop your own process. I think that's a fantastic idea. The problem I'm talking about is that 90% of scrum masters and companies moving to scrum, well, are moving to scrum, as though it's a whole new process as opposed to organically developing new effective processes that fit the company like a glove. On a smoke break, I heard about a company "doing agile" that's now moving "back to waterfall" after laying off 2/3rds of their team. Another big blue chip I work with also got shafted in a big way by a consulting company that tried "moving them to agile". What you do is a world apart from what most people attempt and it's the latter that devastates.