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Qualcomm says Apple would be nothing without its technology

9 points by nodesocket 10y ago

mankash666 10y ago
Heights of irony for Apple to complain about unfair practices, when it not only acts as a gate keeper to it's platform via the app store, but also takes a 30% cut on revenues - neither ever done before. And then there's Qualcomm, which is truly monopolistic. They deserve each other
mtgx 10y ago
I haven't read up on Intel's anti-trust cases, and even though I know they've done many of the things Qualcomm has done so far, I think Qualcomm is a much nastier company. Some proof for that is that multiple governments have already fined it or are about to fine it a billion dollar a piece. If you've read some of my previous comments on Intel, you know I'm not a fan of the company (precisely because of the nasty monopolistic behavior it tends to employ as well). But Qualcomm scares me, and it makes me wonder whether I even want them to break Intel's monopoly in the PC market, only to be abused by an even worse company. Granted, a new monopoly isn't necessarily the only outcome, and perhaps a more ideal (but also relatively realistic) situation would be something like Intel holding 40% of the PC market (as it retreats to more profitable up-markets), AMD holding 35% of the market (thanks to Ryzen and high value/buck), and Qualcomm 25% of the market (think low-budget high-volume $100 laptops in China, India and Africa). Anyways, read-up on the things Qualcomm has done, especially the KFTC anti-trust case against Qualcomm. I actually read through the whole pdf file from KFTC recently, but they seem to have taken all anti-trust papers down from the past three years, likely because companies like Qualcomm complained that those papers would "hurt their image". However there is still another anti-trust case paper against Qualcomm from 2012, but I haven't read that one yet. http://www.zdnet.com/article/qualcomm-blocked-samsung-from-selling-exynos-chips-kftc/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/qualcomm-blocked-samsung-from-s... https://www.cnet.com/news/qualcomm-hit-with-850m-fine-in-south-korea-antitrust-probe/ https://www.cnet.com/news/qualcomm-hit-with-850m-fine-in-sou... http://www.ftc.go.kr/eng/bbs.do http://www.ftc.go.kr/eng/bbs.do

9 points by nodesocket 10y ago

Heights of irony for Apple to complain about unfair practices, when it not only acts as a gate keeper to it's platform via the app store, but also takes a 30% cut on revenues - neither ever done before. And then there's Qualcomm, which is truly monopolistic. They deserve each other

mtgx 10y ago

I haven't read up on Intel's anti-trust cases, and even though I know they've done many of the things Qualcomm has done so far, I think Qualcomm is a much nastier company. Some proof for that is that multiple governments have already fined it or are about to fine it a billion dollar a piece. If you've read some of my previous comments on Intel, you know I'm not a fan of the company (precisely because of the nasty monopolistic behavior it tends to employ as well). But Qualcomm scares me, and it makes me wonder whether I even want them to break Intel's monopoly in the PC market, only to be abused by an even worse company. Granted, a new monopoly isn't necessarily the only outcome, and perhaps a more ideal (but also relatively realistic) situation would be something like Intel holding 40% of the PC market (as it retreats to more profitable up-markets), AMD holding 35% of the market (thanks to Ryzen and high value/buck), and Qualcomm 25% of the market (think low-budget high-volume $100 laptops in China, India and Africa). Anyways, read-up on the things Qualcomm has done, especially the KFTC anti-trust case against Qualcomm. I actually read through the whole pdf file from KFTC recently, but they seem to have taken all anti-trust papers down from the past three years, likely because companies like Qualcomm complained that those papers would "hurt their image". However there is still another anti-trust case paper against Qualcomm from 2012, but I haven't read that one yet. http://www.zdnet.com/article/qualcomm-blocked-samsung-from-selling-exynos-chips-kftc/ http://www.zdnet.com/article/qualcomm-blocked-samsung-from-s... https://www.cnet.com/news/qualcomm-hit-with-850m-fine-in-south-korea-antitrust-probe/ https://www.cnet.com/news/qualcomm-hit-with-850m-fine-in-sou... http://www.ftc.go.kr/eng/bbs.do http://www.ftc.go.kr/eng/bbs.do