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I appreciate the effort here, but in general I don't think more fine grained mechanisms of offering selling debt to the lower classes is going to help long term

by ada1981 10y ago

I appreciate the effort here, but in general I don't think more fine grained mechanisms of offering selling debt to the lower classes is going to help long term. Perhaps if you put upper limits on the assets of the people who can invest, but that seems unlikely. Also, home ownership tends to be one of the "liabilities disguised as assets" that middle / upper middle class people love to buy. Since our economy appears to be heading towards a post labor society with a massive divide between rich and poor, what exactly is the utility of educating kids to work in an economy that won't exist? Seems to me the core skills we ought to help facilitate are creativity, maintaining an authentic self, emotional and Relational mastery, cooperation / democratic citizenry, permaculture, eco-regenerative architecture.. Instead of the industrialist model we have now, perhaps we ought to be teaching them how to develop, integrate and share technology into eco-regenerative housing and permaculture farms. Use the education resources to purchase land, kids can help learn to build and work cooperatively along side adults, in a democratically run community. You provide cool tiny-homes to anyone who needs them. And build them together, learning all sorts of great skills as you go along. I am adivising & working on 2 such pilot projects in Costa Rica right now with a group of accomplished intellectuals (some of whom you may know). Costa Rica was chosen for a number of reasons including climate, mental health of population and a lack of a standing military. We aim to develop a globally connected network of such projects in a neo-tribal model that fits with the emergent archaic values as post-modernism gives way to a more holistic and connected world. Happy to invite any of you down to check out the property if you like, anthony+cr at 175g . com Ps, I hope Landed helps some people, at least in the short term, and also that there passion to serve underserved populations with integrity continues no matter the success / failure of this particular manifestation.

gm-conspiracy 10y ago
Seems similar in concept to a kibbutz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz
sudosteph 10y ago
Cool tiny homes with electricity and running water, I would hope? Because if not, it sounds like you're just advocating for families to live in poverty and have their children work on farms instead of attending school. Which sounds a bit... backwards. I mean, the idea of a commune is hardly a new one. Socialists and religious folk have been at that game for a while, so I wonder how you think plan to differentiate meaningfully. Also, > a neo-tribal model that fits with the emergent archaic values as post-modernism gives way to a more holistic and connected world. Holy cringey buzzword mashup Batman! Sounds like the market appeal here is for the vaccine-denier crowd. I don't think many people here would agree with "archaic values" being an innately good thing. I read that sentence and I can only think of the short, brutal lives human beings experienced during the era of tribalism. Not of something holistic and connecting. I'm also a bit amused that you say you chose Costa Rica for it's "lack of a standing military". I worry that might be interpreted in a less-than-positive way by the government there.
- ada1981 10y ago
  The idea of an archaic revival is the return to more connected communal living with the best that technology has to offer. Our property in Costa Rica is now the worlds largest permaculture farm and we also have high-speed fiber optic cable. I'd imagine the primary differentiator is that I'm advocating for one where the founding values are best scientifically supported practices for health and community vs. a religious text or cult leader. "Holy cringey buzzword mashup Batman!" >> Check out Don Beck's work on psycho-social development if you aren't familiar with the words / concepts. Costa Rica is proud of its non-aggressive position and welcome other folks who aren't interested in supporting a militaristic global agenda.

by ada1981 10y ago

gm-conspiracy 10y ago

Seems similar in concept to a kibbutz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz

sudosteph 10y ago

Cool tiny homes with electricity and running water, I would hope? Because if not, it sounds like you're just advocating for families to live in poverty and have their children work on farms instead of attending school. Which sounds a bit... backwards. I mean, the idea of a commune is hardly a new one. Socialists and religious folk have been at that game for a while, so I wonder how you think plan to differentiate meaningfully. Also, > a neo-tribal model that fits with the emergent archaic values as post-modernism gives way to a more holistic and connected world. Holy cringey buzzword mashup Batman! Sounds like the market appeal here is for the vaccine-denier crowd. I don't think many people here would agree with "archaic values" being an innately good thing. I read that sentence and I can only think of the short, brutal lives human beings experienced during the era of tribalism. Not of something holistic and connecting. I'm also a bit amused that you say you chose Costa Rica for it's "lack of a standing military". I worry that might be interpreted in a less-than-positive way by the government there.

ada1981 10y ago
The idea of an archaic revival is the return to more connected communal living with the best that technology has to offer. Our property in Costa Rica is now the worlds largest permaculture farm and we also have high-speed fiber optic cable. I'd imagine the primary differentiator is that I'm advocating for one where the founding values are best scientifically supported practices for health and community vs. a religious text or cult leader. "Holy cringey buzzword mashup Batman!" >> Check out Don Beck's work on psycho-social development if you aren't familiar with the words / concepts. Costa Rica is proud of its non-aggressive position and welcome other folks who aren't interested in supporting a militaristic global agenda.