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> This is part of the real reason why California is imposing the new gas tax in the name of infrastructure. > Part of the reason why even reasonable people do

> This is part of the real reason why California is imposing the new gas tax in the name of infrastructure. > Part of the reason why even reasonable people do not take left's claims of "tax to protect environment" seriously because this is all the money that they can see going to the pockets of politicians and government employees. "Hey, I want to be able to rob government employees of the compensation they were contractually promised when they did their jobs." Color your argument however you want, in whatever political flavor you like, that is essentially what you suggest. I'm really not going to feel guilty if the government taxes you to pay average Americans the pay they agreed too. Sorry, I'm genuinely not interested in your politics of envy. Personally, as far as I can tell, for the same job the government would pay me less than I make now. So...I'm really not worried Government employees are being overcompensated.

kamaal 10y ago
>>"Hey, I want to be able to rob government employees of the compensation they were contractually promised when they did their jobs." Government departments promised each other outrageous compensation and somebody who is coming 30 years and wasn't even present back then is supposed to be skinned to the bone so that grand pa can swing his golf club in Scotland? [Source:http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-el-monte-pensions/ http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-el-monte-pensions/] Who is the one doing the 'robbing' here? There is limit up to how much you can abuse these things until the next generations call it quits and leave you with nothing.
- fictioncircle 10y ago
  > Government departments promised each other outrageous compensation and somebody who is coming 30 years and wasn't even present back then is supposed to be skinned to the bone so that grand pa can swing his golf club in Scotland? Okay, so question, why aren't you working as a Government employee due to the outrageous compensation that dwarfs all alternatives?
  - kamaal 10y ago
    I don't understand your question. Did I state the compensation for government employees is more than every other job out there? My point is you can't award your self a unreasonable pay package and then expect somebody who didn't even sign up to pay for it, pay for it.
    - fictioncircle 10y ago
      > Did I state the compensation for government employees is more than every other job out there? Which is an admission that your following sentence is a fiction: > My point is you can't award your self a unreasonable pay package and then expect somebody who didn't even sign up to pay for it, pay for it. Government employees aren't overpaid when the people who can get them can be paid more by the private sector in terms of total compensation. The next problem with your argument is you intend to rob people who agreed to be paid $X for their labor after they kept up their end of the bargain. The third problem is, if you do that, you'll see a steep decline in police & military who heavily rely on pensions as part of the total compensation package. I suggest robbing your police, military, and other emergency/security forces because you think their compensation is unreasonable is unlikely to be a wise choice if you enjoy a stable society. Oh btw, it gets better, since in order to do this you have to void a good chunk of legal precedent about employment and will likely create a ton of other unintended, non-obvious consequences. If you don't like how the government operates, exercise your power to vote rather than attempting to rob people after they upheld their end of the social contract.

kamaal 10y ago

>>"Hey, I want to be able to rob government employees of the compensation they were contractually promised when they did their jobs." Government departments promised each other outrageous compensation and somebody who is coming 30 years and wasn't even present back then is supposed to be skinned to the bone so that grand pa can swing his golf club in Scotland? [Source:http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-el-monte-pensions/ http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-el-monte-pensions/] Who is the one doing the 'robbing' here? There is limit up to how much you can abuse these things until the next generations call it quits and leave you with nothing.

fictioncircle 10y ago
> Government departments promised each other outrageous compensation and somebody who is coming 30 years and wasn't even present back then is supposed to be skinned to the bone so that grand pa can swing his golf club in Scotland? Okay, so question, why aren't you working as a Government employee due to the outrageous compensation that dwarfs all alternatives?
- kamaal 10y ago
  I don't understand your question. Did I state the compensation for government employees is more than every other job out there? My point is you can't award your self a unreasonable pay package and then expect somebody who didn't even sign up to pay for it, pay for it.
  - fictioncircle 10y ago
    > Did I state the compensation for government employees is more than every other job out there? Which is an admission that your following sentence is a fiction: > My point is you can't award your self a unreasonable pay package and then expect somebody who didn't even sign up to pay for it, pay for it. Government employees aren't overpaid when the people who can get them can be paid more by the private sector in terms of total compensation. The next problem with your argument is you intend to rob people who agreed to be paid $X for their labor after they kept up their end of the bargain. The third problem is, if you do that, you'll see a steep decline in police & military who heavily rely on pensions as part of the total compensation package. I suggest robbing your police, military, and other emergency/security forces because you think their compensation is unreasonable is unlikely to be a wise choice if you enjoy a stable society. Oh btw, it gets better, since in order to do this you have to void a good chunk of legal precedent about employment and will likely create a ton of other unintended, non-obvious consequences. If you don't like how the government operates, exercise your power to vote rather than attempting to rob people after they upheld their end of the social contract.