I'm still using one of the previous generation HP N54Ls. Great pieces of kit. The Gen8 was a slight step backwards in some ways insofar as loosing the standard

I'm still using one of the previous generation HP N54Ls. Great pieces of kit. The Gen8 was a slight step backwards in some ways insofar as loosing the standard 5.25" bay which was handy for installing 4-6 2.5" drives. Agree that HP should definitely keep evolving this, but seems like they aren't interested. Plus they have taken an actively hobbyist-unfriendly stance with regard to access to updated drivers now requiring a support agreement.