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Microsoft in VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_11#_text-search-improvements https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_11#_text-search-imp... /pl

Microsoft in VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_11#_text-search-improvements https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_11#_text-search-imp... /plug :-)

flukus 10y ago
I don't think that counts. I'm not using c when I run grep.
- burntsushi 10y ago
  They are shipping ripgrep with VS code.
  - flukus 10y ago
    But shipping a program using rust != using rust. If that was the case I've used Erlang despite never having written a single line of it because I've shipped rabbitmq.
    - burntsushi 10y ago
      This is a strange argument I find myself in. What do you expect me to say? They're shipping a Rust application I wrote. That's a fact. Do with it what you will.
      - lossolo 10y ago
        No, it's not strange. What you wrote can be interpreted as manipulation. It's the same as replying to question "Who uses Go besides Google?" And you would reply that almost everyone use it, because everyone is shipping their apps with Docker. You see manipulation here? I don't know if intentionally or not but you did exactly the same.
        dbaupp 10y ago
        FWIW, a common argument in favour of C and C++ is how it is used by pretty much everything that one runs on a computer, in exactly the same sense of "use". I think you're tilting at windmills: some people mean "use" to mean "ship" and others "write", and neither are that unreasonable.
        lossolo 10y ago
        I wasn't the first one that made that claim. And I don't know the author of the comment that made it and I am not involved with anything that author do - something you can't say yourself in context of person you are defending. I've asked couple of people about that question without suggesting the answer and all of them agree with interpretation that it's about writing software in language A, not using third party tools written in language A. Example of usage outside of company like in question from arstechnica: "Outside of Google, companies like Wrike, Workiva, Blossom and others have also been using Dart to develop their products, so there is definitely still a Dart user community outside of Google, too." This is how everyone interpret that question.
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        burntsushi 10y ago
        "Manipulation"? Really? Please. > And you would reply that almost everyone use it, because everyone is shipping their apps with Docker. Seems reasonable. Docker is a pretty compelling data point for the viability of Go for writing systems tooling. This argument still seems strange and very petty.
        lossolo 10y ago
        > "Manipulation"? Really? Please. > This argument still seems strange and very petty. Those are not an arguments for anything. What I wrote still stands. It's clear that author asked which company use (writes) Rust besides Mozilla, not which company integrate third party tools that was written in Rust - it's logical.

Microsoft in VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_11#_text-search-improvements https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_11#_text-search-imp... /plug :-)

flukus 10y ago

I don't think that counts. I'm not using c when I run grep.

burntsushi 10y ago
They are shipping ripgrep with VS code.
- flukus 10y ago
  But shipping a program using rust != using rust. If that was the case I've used Erlang despite never having written a single line of it because I've shipped rabbitmq.
  - burntsushi 10y ago
    This is a strange argument I find myself in. What do you expect me to say? They're shipping a Rust application I wrote. That's a fact. Do with it what you will.
    - lossolo 10y ago
      No, it's not strange. What you wrote can be interpreted as manipulation. It's the same as replying to question "Who uses Go besides Google?" And you would reply that almost everyone use it, because everyone is shipping their apps with Docker. You see manipulation here? I don't know if intentionally or not but you did exactly the same.
      - dbaupp 10y ago
        FWIW, a common argument in favour of C and C++ is how it is used by pretty much everything that one runs on a computer, in exactly the same sense of "use". I think you're tilting at windmills: some people mean "use" to mean "ship" and others "write", and neither are that unreasonable.
        lossolo 10y ago
        I wasn't the first one that made that claim. And I don't know the author of the comment that made it and I am not involved with anything that author do - something you can't say yourself in context of person you are defending. I've asked couple of people about that question without suggesting the answer and all of them agree with interpretation that it's about writing software in language A, not using third party tools written in language A. Example of usage outside of company like in question from arstechnica: "Outside of Google, companies like Wrike, Workiva, Blossom and others have also been using Dart to develop their products, so there is definitely still a Dart user community outside of Google, too." This is how everyone interpret that question.
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      - burntsushi 10y ago
        "Manipulation"? Really? Please. > And you would reply that almost everyone use it, because everyone is shipping their apps with Docker. Seems reasonable. Docker is a pretty compelling data point for the viability of Go for writing systems tooling. This argument still seems strange and very petty.
        lossolo 10y ago
        > "Manipulation"? Really? Please. > This argument still seems strange and very petty. Those are not an arguments for anything. What I wrote still stands. It's clear that author asked which company use (writes) Rust besides Mozilla, not which company integrate third party tools that was written in Rust - it's logical.