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The other problem is what society views as ethical or moral is now subjective to each on a variety of different factors in this post post-modern society. There

The other problem is what society views as ethical or moral is now subjective to each on a variety of different factors in this post post-modern society. There was once puritanical values, however despised they are by certain factions, which unified the "ethos" of the nation on what is and is not ethical. The civil rights movement came along and augmented that ethos for the better. Now we have groups who place abandoning a cat on the same level as abandoning a child, as an example. It's going to be very difficult on agreeing what is "ethical" when in the "me" society it translates to "what is ethical for me, right now, based on my current views of some form of science/philosophy/religion/spirituality/etc and what happened to me personally when I was growing up"

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ianai 10y ago
Ethics have always started and ended at the individual level. Even in societies dominated by communal thinking/living.
mtgx 10y ago
Airlines shouldn't be allowed to overbook. Causing people to miss their flights just because the company wanted to ensure 100% profitability per flight is unacceptable, and it shouldn't be legal (the overbooking, not the throwing off a plane for whatever other serious reason per se).
- acchow 10y ago
  They'd have probably staying profitable if they couldn't overbook. Overbook it, sure, but offer escalating incentives to get people to voluntarily disembark. Physical removal is ridiculous and should be removed from the carrier's legal rights.
  - mtgx 10y ago
    Putting profits ahead of anything else is what causes so much problems in the U.S. these days. If only one company decided to overbook, then sure, I agree with you. But if it were a law, and every airline was forced not to overbook, then it simply means the ticket prices would be a little higher. And if because of those slightly higher ticket prices, the airline might have to retire a plane or two, then so be it, but no airline would go bankrupt because of it. We have all sorts of laws that protect consumers and employees that "hurt" the absolute maximization of profit. This wouldn't be any different. When it's a law, it just means everyone plays at a higher standard and prices are a little higher than they would be without those protections. Also, Canada is likely going to pass such a law soon: http://globalnews.ca/news/3370381/canada-overbooked-flights-law/ http://globalnews.ca/news/3370381/canada-overbooked-flights-...
inimino 10y ago
The golden age of unified national consensus on what is ethical is a myth.
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- ascagnel_ 10y ago
  If anything, there's a long history of repressive regimes that attempt to force an ethics on society through religion. The ancient Romans even tried to enforce Christianity on their own people, replacing the official state religion, after decades of trying to stamp it out.

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ianai 10y ago

Ethics have always started and ended at the individual level. Even in societies dominated by communal thinking/living.

mtgx 10y ago

Airlines shouldn't be allowed to overbook. Causing people to miss their flights just because the company wanted to ensure 100% profitability per flight is unacceptable, and it shouldn't be legal (the overbooking, not the throwing off a plane for whatever other serious reason per se).

acchow 10y ago
They'd have probably staying profitable if they couldn't overbook. Overbook it, sure, but offer escalating incentives to get people to voluntarily disembark. Physical removal is ridiculous and should be removed from the carrier's legal rights.
- mtgx 10y ago
  Putting profits ahead of anything else is what causes so much problems in the U.S. these days. If only one company decided to overbook, then sure, I agree with you. But if it were a law, and every airline was forced not to overbook, then it simply means the ticket prices would be a little higher. And if because of those slightly higher ticket prices, the airline might have to retire a plane or two, then so be it, but no airline would go bankrupt because of it. We have all sorts of laws that protect consumers and employees that "hurt" the absolute maximization of profit. This wouldn't be any different. When it's a law, it just means everyone plays at a higher standard and prices are a little higher than they would be without those protections. Also, Canada is likely going to pass such a law soon: http://globalnews.ca/news/3370381/canada-overbooked-flights-law/ http://globalnews.ca/news/3370381/canada-overbooked-flights-...

inimino 10y ago

The golden age of unified national consensus on what is ethical is a myth.

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ascagnel_ 10y ago
If anything, there's a long history of repressive regimes that attempt to force an ethics on society through religion. The ancient Romans even tried to enforce Christianity on their own people, replacing the official state religion, after decades of trying to stamp it out.