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Other notable historical conspiracy theories that have a surprising number of adherants: - 9/11 was organized/enabled/allowed to happen by actors within the US

Other notable historical conspiracy theories that have a surprising number of adherants: - 9/11 was organized/enabled/allowed to happen by actors within the US Gov. - Pearl Harbor was organized/enabled/allowed to happen by actors within the US Gov. - JFK was assassinated by the CIA - All history from CE 614 to CE 911 was fabricated by the Holy Roman Empire

nerdponx 10y ago
Nos. 1, 2, and 4 are far more plausible than conspiracy theories like flat-earth-ism, holocaust denial, and moon landing denial.
- InitialLastName 10y ago
  1 and 2 are much harder to prove, since they're not about whether some big thing happened as much as about who orchestrated it, which is a much more ephemeral concept. We (mostly) all accept that some ships sank in Hawaii and that the World Trade Center towers are missing as of 9/11/01. It's what happened and who made it happen that are in question. I'd say 4 is just as easily disprovable as flat-earth-ism: There are other, contemporary societies in contact with Western Europe who were also keeping track of time... unless there was an Eurasia-wide conspiracy (in CE 1000) to fabricate those years, the dates only line up the way we count them now. There are also well-established (and recorded) astronomical events that line up well with the commonly-accepted timeline (but that would take believing that astronomical events are predictable by science). In all, I'd say it's much more likely that NASA pretended to land on the moon than that the century we think Mohammed lived in didn't happen. EDIT: Misread my own numbering
Isamu 10y ago
I'm interested in that last one- why the focus on that time period?
- schoen 10y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time_hypothesis See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Chronology_(Fomenko) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Chronology_(Fomenko)
gmarx 10y ago
The first three aren't parallel in my mind. Those people aren't saying 9/11, Pearl Harbor and JFK assassination didn't occur. they just have different, mostly unfalsifiable theories about why they occurred.

nerdponx 10y ago

Nos. 1, 2, and 4 are far more plausible than conspiracy theories like flat-earth-ism, holocaust denial, and moon landing denial.

InitialLastName 10y ago
1 and 2 are much harder to prove, since they're not about whether some big thing happened as much as about who orchestrated it, which is a much more ephemeral concept. We (mostly) all accept that some ships sank in Hawaii and that the World Trade Center towers are missing as of 9/11/01. It's what happened and who made it happen that are in question. I'd say 4 is just as easily disprovable as flat-earth-ism: There are other, contemporary societies in contact with Western Europe who were also keeping track of time... unless there was an Eurasia-wide conspiracy (in CE 1000) to fabricate those years, the dates only line up the way we count them now. There are also well-established (and recorded) astronomical events that line up well with the commonly-accepted timeline (but that would take believing that astronomical events are predictable by science). In all, I'd say it's much more likely that NASA pretended to land on the moon than that the century we think Mohammed lived in didn't happen. EDIT: Misread my own numbering

Isamu 10y ago

I'm interested in that last one- why the focus on that time period?

schoen 10y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time_hypothesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phantom_time_hypothesis See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Chronology_(Fomenko) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Chronology_(Fomenko)

gmarx 10y ago

The first three aren't parallel in my mind. Those people aren't saying 9/11, Pearl Harbor and JFK assassination didn't occur. they just have different, mostly unfalsifiable theories about why they occurred.