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Wait what? Didn't the Deis team just join EngineYard last year? Furthermore, why would Microsoft want Deis? They haven't really shown an interest in Kubernetes

by edude03 10y ago

Wait what? Didn't the Deis team just join EngineYard last year? Furthermore, why would Microsoft want Deis? They haven't really shown an interest in Kubernetes thus far.

UK-AL 10y ago
Well they've gotten kubernetes running on azure.
- HorizonXP 10y ago
  Yes you can run Azure Container Service using Kubernetes. When we migrated to Azure, we went with this and it worked reasonably well. However, they're using Ubuntu as their base OS, which we weren't the biggest fans of. Instead, we switched to running normal VMs using CoreOS and running Kubernetes on top of that. Same features and stability, but with the auto-update benefits of CoreOS.
  - rattray 10y ago
    Out of curiosity, why'd you choose Azure over GKE?
    - HorizonXP 10y ago
      Cold hard cash. Our Azure credits have a longer expiry date.
      - rattray 10y ago
        Makes sense. Any regrets?
        luka-birsa 10y ago
        Basing on my experience there will be a migration to GCE when credits run out and you total the difference in costs. Azure is fine, but can't compete on price. (We migrated from AZ to GCE & K8S)
        HorizonXP 10y ago
        Probably. But first have to build the business up so we can afford paying server costs before we can start worrying about Azure vs. GCE.
  - philips 10y ago
    CoreOS has also introduced preview support for Azure in Tectonic[1][2]. [1] https://coreos.com/tectonic/docs/latest/install/azure/azure-terraform.html https://coreos.com/tectonic/docs/latest/install/azure/azure-... [2] https://coreos.com/blog/tectonic-highly-available-clusters.html https://coreos.com/blog/tectonic-highly-available-clusters.h...
    - HorizonXP 10y ago
      We literally e-mailed you asking for this last month. Fantastic.
raesene6 10y ago
Well Microsoft did hire one of the Kubernetes Founders last year (http://www.crn.com/news/cloud/300081316/microsoft-hires-googles-lead-kubernetes-engineer-to-boost-container-orchestration-support-in-azure.htm http://www.crn.com/news/cloud/300081316/microsoft-hires-goog...) and have been working on getting Kubernetes running on Azure, so it doesn't surprise me that they'd want to strengthen that effort.
numo16 10y ago
> They haven't really shown an interest in Kubernetes thus far Except for helping with Windows Server support for kubernetes[0] and supporting kubernetes in Azure Container Services[1] [0]: http://blog.kubernetes.io/2016/12/windows-server-support-kubernetes.html http://blog.kubernetes.io/2016/12/windows-server-support-kub... [1]: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/kubernetes-now-generally-available-on-azure-container-service/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/kubernetes-now-genera...
- deleted 10y ago
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- outside1234 10y ago
  And hiring the founder away from Google (Brendan Burns).
educar 10y ago
I am confused by this as well. I thought does was part of engineyard. Can someone clarify? And does this affect dokku by any chance?
- bacongobbler 10y ago
  > And does this affect dokku by any chance? No cause effect on dokku. Both are separate projects managed by separate entities.
  - josegonzalez 10y ago
    Deis gave sponsorship money to Jeff Lindsay at some point to work on things that benefitted the docker paas ecosystem - think registrator or herokuish. At no point did any entity named "Dokku" get any money out of this, and Deis being acquired has no bearing on the project whatsoever. We do, however, wish them luck and are happy to see them succeed. - Source: I am one of the primary Dokku maintainers.
- ebrescia 10y ago
  I think EngineYard is going elsewhere- Microsoft only acquired the Deis part of the business.
  - deleted 10y ago
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dennyabraham 10y ago
It's reported elsewhere[1] Deis is being acquired from EngineYard. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/10/microsoft-acquires-container-platform-deis/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/10/microsoft-acquires-contain...
jmspring 10y ago
My stint in computers started back in the DOS days, diverged into *nix, Os/2, and other operating systems, but also knew way too damn much about Windows platforms. By nature, I was a BSD guy, moved to Linux for some things. I've worked for MSFT for 6 years now. When the Skype buyout was announced, my friends called and laughed at me. The tech evangelist who worked for Microsoft at the time that I ran across while in Stockholm for business was super stoked. I know and lived the days, I see the stories about the various "reporting back" -- that is outside my purview -- but when it comes to engagement with the OSS community, including Kubernetes, some simple searching will reveal just how much we've been involved in such. One engineer working for the Azure Container Service team personally wrote most of the Azure Cloud Provider. An engineer from Redhat contributed the initial persistent volume on Azure support. An engineer in DX/TED is helping improve persistent volume support in 1.5.3 and 1.6. These things are easily revealed looking at Github PRs and other activity. It's easy to post the "knee-jerk" post, I know I see something and think such, but sometimes a bit of searching will reveal surprises.

by edude03 10y ago

Wait what? Didn't the Deis team just join EngineYard last year? Furthermore, why would Microsoft want Deis? They haven't really shown an interest in Kubernetes thus far.

UK-AL 10y ago

Well they've gotten kubernetes running on azure.

HorizonXP 10y ago
Yes you can run Azure Container Service using Kubernetes. When we migrated to Azure, we went with this and it worked reasonably well. However, they're using Ubuntu as their base OS, which we weren't the biggest fans of. Instead, we switched to running normal VMs using CoreOS and running Kubernetes on top of that. Same features and stability, but with the auto-update benefits of CoreOS.
- rattray 10y ago
  Out of curiosity, why'd you choose Azure over GKE?
  - HorizonXP 10y ago
    Cold hard cash. Our Azure credits have a longer expiry date.
    - rattray 10y ago
      Makes sense. Any regrets?
      - luka-birsa 10y ago
        Basing on my experience there will be a migration to GCE when credits run out and you total the difference in costs. Azure is fine, but can't compete on price. (We migrated from AZ to GCE & K8S)
        HorizonXP 10y ago
        Probably. But first have to build the business up so we can afford paying server costs before we can start worrying about Azure vs. GCE.
- philips 10y ago
  CoreOS has also introduced preview support for Azure in Tectonic[1][2]. [1] https://coreos.com/tectonic/docs/latest/install/azure/azure-terraform.html https://coreos.com/tectonic/docs/latest/install/azure/azure-... [2] https://coreos.com/blog/tectonic-highly-available-clusters.html https://coreos.com/blog/tectonic-highly-available-clusters.h...
  - HorizonXP 10y ago
    We literally e-mailed you asking for this last month. Fantastic.

raesene6 10y ago

Well Microsoft did hire one of the Kubernetes Founders last year (http://www.crn.com/news/cloud/300081316/microsoft-hires-googles-lead-kubernetes-engineer-to-boost-container-orchestration-support-in-azure.htm http://www.crn.com/news/cloud/300081316/microsoft-hires-goog...) and have been working on getting Kubernetes running on Azure, so it doesn't surprise me that they'd want to strengthen that effort.

numo16 10y ago

> They haven't really shown an interest in Kubernetes thus far Except for helping with Windows Server support for kubernetes[0] and supporting kubernetes in Azure Container Services[1] [0]: http://blog.kubernetes.io/2016/12/windows-server-support-kubernetes.html http://blog.kubernetes.io/2016/12/windows-server-support-kub... [1]: https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/kubernetes-now-generally-available-on-azure-container-service/ https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/kubernetes-now-genera...

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outside1234 10y ago
And hiring the founder away from Google (Brendan Burns).

educar 10y ago

I am confused by this as well. I thought does was part of engineyard. Can someone clarify? And does this affect dokku by any chance?

bacongobbler 10y ago
> And does this affect dokku by any chance? No cause effect on dokku. Both are separate projects managed by separate entities.
- josegonzalez 10y ago
  Deis gave sponsorship money to Jeff Lindsay at some point to work on things that benefitted the docker paas ecosystem - think registrator or herokuish. At no point did any entity named "Dokku" get any money out of this, and Deis being acquired has no bearing on the project whatsoever. We do, however, wish them luck and are happy to see them succeed. - Source: I am one of the primary Dokku maintainers.
ebrescia 10y ago
I think EngineYard is going elsewhere- Microsoft only acquired the Deis part of the business.
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]

dennyabraham 10y ago

It's reported elsewhere[1] Deis is being acquired from EngineYard. [1] https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/10/microsoft-acquires-container-platform-deis/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/10/microsoft-acquires-contain...

jmspring 10y ago

My stint in computers started back in the DOS days, diverged into *nix, Os/2, and other operating systems, but also knew way too damn much about Windows platforms. By nature, I was a BSD guy, moved to Linux for some things. I've worked for MSFT for 6 years now. When the Skype buyout was announced, my friends called and laughed at me. The tech evangelist who worked for Microsoft at the time that I ran across while in Stockholm for business was super stoked. I know and lived the days, I see the stories about the various "reporting back" -- that is outside my purview -- but when it comes to engagement with the OSS community, including Kubernetes, some simple searching will reveal just how much we've been involved in such. One engineer working for the Azure Container Service team personally wrote most of the Azure Cloud Provider. An engineer from Redhat contributed the initial persistent volume on Azure support. An engineer in DX/TED is helping improve persistent volume support in 1.5.3 and 1.6. These things are easily revealed looking at Github PRs and other activity. It's easy to post the "knee-jerk" post, I know I see something and think such, but sometimes a bit of searching will reveal surprises.