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GM and Ford are the leaders in self driving? Sounds like they funded this report. I see Tesla and Google as the leaders but maybe that's just my Silicon Valley

GM and Ford are the leaders in self driving? Sounds like they funded this report. I see Tesla and Google as the leaders but maybe that's just my Silicon Valley bias.

frgtpsswrdlame 10y ago
Why do you see Tesla and Google as leading?
- Choco31415 10y ago
  Tesla I could see. They have deployed their automated driving to their Tesla cars, albeit with requirements that the driver hold the wheel. Plus, Tesla gets a lot of publicity, which could sway opinions.
- inventtheday 10y ago
  Google because of their publicly reported disengagement data - as low as once every 6,000 miles. Tesla because of their fleet approach to mapping and training. I agree that these two are at the front of the pack.
- omarforgotpwd 10y ago
  Tesla because they are already shipping cars with self driving hardware and over the air software updates and seem competent in developing software for the car, and also because of my experience using Autopilot on the Model S. Google because they are competent at software engineering and have the internet / maps advantage to build really "smart" self driving cars that can talk to each other, learn and send data back to server for other cars to use, etc. Competency developing software, not competency building vehicles will be the key factor here. Google will most likely find success licensing their technology to anybody rather than making their own cars. I could see Ford and GM getting some basic self driving software working by themselves but as the software gets more advanced and complex they'll really need a partner like Google.
Shivetya 10y ago
GM has a program with universities doing autonomous driving challenge using the new Chevrolet Bolt http://www.hybridcars.com/universities-building-automated-chevy-bolts-for-sae-and-gm-challenge/ http://www.hybridcars.com/universities-building-automated-ch... While I always liked Tesla's demo videos the posted I learned all I wanted to know about its inability in imperfect conditions by just surfing Youtube for user demonstrations of AP2. Has anything come out of Google lately? Also, how many programs are still operating on "if we just can map it all" mentality. Level 4+ are going to have to have cars that adapt to ever changing conditions. I am still curious about one long term question, can an autonomous car speed and if it does who is at fault?
- legolas2412 10y ago
  I know I could search them myself, but can you share some of the interesting ones of those videos "its inability in imperfect conditions by just surfing Youtube for user demonstrations of AP2."

GM and Ford are the leaders in self driving? Sounds like they funded this report. I see Tesla and Google as the leaders but maybe that's just my Silicon Valley bias.

frgtpsswrdlame 10y ago

Why do you see Tesla and Google as leading?

Choco31415 10y ago
Tesla I could see. They have deployed their automated driving to their Tesla cars, albeit with requirements that the driver hold the wheel. Plus, Tesla gets a lot of publicity, which could sway opinions.
inventtheday 10y ago
Google because of their publicly reported disengagement data - as low as once every 6,000 miles. Tesla because of their fleet approach to mapping and training. I agree that these two are at the front of the pack.
omarforgotpwd 10y ago
Tesla because they are already shipping cars with self driving hardware and over the air software updates and seem competent in developing software for the car, and also because of my experience using Autopilot on the Model S. Google because they are competent at software engineering and have the internet / maps advantage to build really "smart" self driving cars that can talk to each other, learn and send data back to server for other cars to use, etc. Competency developing software, not competency building vehicles will be the key factor here. Google will most likely find success licensing their technology to anybody rather than making their own cars. I could see Ford and GM getting some basic self driving software working by themselves but as the software gets more advanced and complex they'll really need a partner like Google.

Shivetya 10y ago

GM has a program with universities doing autonomous driving challenge using the new Chevrolet Bolt http://www.hybridcars.com/universities-building-automated-chevy-bolts-for-sae-and-gm-challenge/ http://www.hybridcars.com/universities-building-automated-ch... While I always liked Tesla's demo videos the posted I learned all I wanted to know about its inability in imperfect conditions by just surfing Youtube for user demonstrations of AP2. Has anything come out of Google lately? Also, how many programs are still operating on "if we just can map it all" mentality. Level 4+ are going to have to have cars that adapt to ever changing conditions. I am still curious about one long term question, can an autonomous car speed and if it does who is at fault?

legolas2412 10y ago
I know I could search them myself, but can you share some of the interesting ones of those videos "its inability in imperfect conditions by just surfing Youtube for user demonstrations of AP2."