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I got the impression from an earlier article that it is completely without Internet though. So more LAN of Things?

by lawik 10y ago

roel_v 10y ago
Depending on who you ask, IoT = anything that speaks TCP/IP. Many 'IoT' products can be used without access to the 'public' internet.
- lawik 10y ago
  Fair enough. At least it doesn't run through some cloud solution that will leave it bricked when it stops running. Glad they've chosen an interoperable approach even though they don't explicitly encourage interop.
awalton 10y ago
That's the real problem with most of the "Internet of Things" products - they really shouldn't have skipped the "Network of Things" step. So many of the problems with these products could have been reasonably and properly shaken down and out... but instead all of the companies decided to unnecessarily bridge their products with the cloud and hastily rush to the market.
- TorKlingberg 10y ago
  The problem is that with mobile and all the NAT firewalls in use today, going to a cloud service and back is easiest way to connect any two devices.
  - cr0sh 10y ago
    Security aspects aside, that's fine - what isn't is the inability to run that external server yourself. Imagine if instead of using "proprietary cloud xyz" for a particular IoT product, you could spin up a cloud server or container up somewhere and install it yourself - and as long as you pay for the server, you have access. Let the consumer decide based on their "expertise" level what option they want to use - but the option should be there, and included in some form with the product itself (maybe on an sd card or something), so that they could at least transition to that should the company go out of business. Ideally, the system would be open source as well, so it could be expanded.
JshWright 10y ago
Intranet of Things
TeMPOraL 10y ago
Intranet of Things, as all of those products should be. Cloud integration is most of the times an anti-feature (even if marketed otherwise).
xg15 10y ago
Off topic, I really like that term. Can we promote that? I'd gladly true more "LAN-of-things" devices than the current internet-of-things hype.

I got the impression from an earlier article that it is completely without Internet though. So more LAN of Things?

by lawik 10y ago

I got the impression from an earlier article that it is completely without Internet though. So more LAN of Things?

Depending on who you ask, IoT = anything that speaks TCP/IP. Many 'IoT' products can be used without access to the 'public' internet.

lawik 10y ago
Fair enough. At least it doesn't run through some cloud solution that will leave it bricked when it stops running. Glad they've chosen an interoperable approach even though they don't explicitly encourage interop.

awalton 10y ago

That's the real problem with most of the "Internet of Things" products - they really shouldn't have skipped the "Network of Things" step. So many of the problems with these products could have been reasonably and properly shaken down and out... but instead all of the companies decided to unnecessarily bridge their products with the cloud and hastily rush to the market.

TorKlingberg 10y ago
The problem is that with mobile and all the NAT firewalls in use today, going to a cloud service and back is easiest way to connect any two devices.
- cr0sh 10y ago
  Security aspects aside, that's fine - what isn't is the inability to run that external server yourself. Imagine if instead of using "proprietary cloud xyz" for a particular IoT product, you could spin up a cloud server or container up somewhere and install it yourself - and as long as you pay for the server, you have access. Let the consumer decide based on their "expertise" level what option they want to use - but the option should be there, and included in some form with the product itself (maybe on an sd card or something), so that they could at least transition to that should the company go out of business. Ideally, the system would be open source as well, so it could be expanded.

JshWright 10y ago

Intranet of Things

TeMPOraL 10y ago

Intranet of Things, as all of those products should be. Cloud integration is most of the times an anti-feature (even if marketed otherwise).

xg15 10y ago

Off topic, I really like that term. Can we promote that? I'd gladly true more "LAN-of-things" devices than the current internet-of-things hype.