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Some people honestly just need 4-5 hours of sleep. I used to work for Zillow and their CEO Spencer only sleeps 4-5 hours a night. It's all he needs and all he's

Some people honestly just need 4-5 hours of sleep. I used to work for Zillow and their CEO Spencer only sleeps 4-5 hours a night. It's all he needs and all he's ever done, according to people who have worked for him for a long time. But these people are the exception not the rule. I think the reason they tend to be successful is because they are up before everyone else and have time to get a lot accomplished before they are thrown into the day with everyone else's schedules pulling on them.

coldpie 9y ago
> I think the reason they tend to be successful is because they are up before everyone else and have time to get a lot accomplished before they are thrown into the day with everyone else's schedules pulling on them. Whenever the daydream talking point "what superpower would you have?" comes up, my answer is to not require sleep. I love sleep and I get seven to eight hours of it every night. But imagine what you could do with another eight hours of waking activity every single day. I think you're right that people who can get by on less have an advantage. But I'm not one of 'em.
- rubber_duck 9y ago
  I'm not experienced in this but from what I've read you could just take stuff like modafinil and sleep way less while being productive longer so it's not really a daydream scenario - there will probably be trade-offs but it's achievable.
  - germinalphrase 9y ago
    The "4-5 hours a night" story is so prevalent among government and business leaders that I've always assumed that they are A) lying, or B) medicating to reduce their sleep needs. President Obama was reported to have regularly taken Modafinil to reduce jet lag while on international trips. He's also reported to only sleep five hours a night. Why not just medicate to increase your productivity for a few years?
    - cafard 9y ago
      It was said of Napoleon that he slept little, but apparently that is not so, though he could when necessary stay awake for long hours.
    - dTal 9y ago
      Because Modafinil is a Schedule IV controlled substance, and "I want to be a productive superman like President Obama" probably won't fly with your doctor?
      - germinalphrase 9y ago
        I was suggesting that he was medicating to keep those hours.
  - neverminder 9y ago
    Modafinil is not a long term solution. Sleep deficit that you would build up would have to be "paid back", or it would become detrimental to your health. By the way, those few people who need less sleep most likely have certain genetic advantage that the rest of us don't: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/genetic-mutation-sleep-less/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/genetic-mutation-...
    - rubber_duck 9y ago
      I'm not sure it's a 1:1 relation, eg. say you cut 12 hours of sleep during the week but sleep extra 6 hours on the weekend or something along those lines - cycling on-and-off according to your schedule. As I've said I haven't tried it yet will do some research before I do, right now I'm trying out other stuff and it wouldn't be wise to mix so many unknowns.
pascalxus 9y ago
i wish i could do that. I seem to need 8-9 hours every freakin night and even then i still feel tired sometimes.

coldpie 9y ago

> I think the reason they tend to be successful is because they are up before everyone else and have time to get a lot accomplished before they are thrown into the day with everyone else's schedules pulling on them. Whenever the daydream talking point "what superpower would you have?" comes up, my answer is to not require sleep. I love sleep and I get seven to eight hours of it every night. But imagine what you could do with another eight hours of waking activity every single day. I think you're right that people who can get by on less have an advantage. But I'm not one of 'em.

rubber_duck 9y ago
I'm not experienced in this but from what I've read you could just take stuff like modafinil and sleep way less while being productive longer so it's not really a daydream scenario - there will probably be trade-offs but it's achievable.
- germinalphrase 9y ago
  The "4-5 hours a night" story is so prevalent among government and business leaders that I've always assumed that they are A) lying, or B) medicating to reduce their sleep needs. President Obama was reported to have regularly taken Modafinil to reduce jet lag while on international trips. He's also reported to only sleep five hours a night. Why not just medicate to increase your productivity for a few years?
  - cafard 9y ago
    It was said of Napoleon that he slept little, but apparently that is not so, though he could when necessary stay awake for long hours.
  - dTal 9y ago
    Because Modafinil is a Schedule IV controlled substance, and "I want to be a productive superman like President Obama" probably won't fly with your doctor?
    - germinalphrase 9y ago
      I was suggesting that he was medicating to keep those hours.
- neverminder 9y ago
  Modafinil is not a long term solution. Sleep deficit that you would build up would have to be "paid back", or it would become detrimental to your health. By the way, those few people who need less sleep most likely have certain genetic advantage that the rest of us don't: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/genetic-mutation-sleep-less/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/genetic-mutation-...
  - rubber_duck 9y ago
    I'm not sure it's a 1:1 relation, eg. say you cut 12 hours of sleep during the week but sleep extra 6 hours on the weekend or something along those lines - cycling on-and-off according to your schedule. As I've said I haven't tried it yet will do some research before I do, right now I'm trying out other stuff and it wouldn't be wise to mix so many unknowns.

pascalxus 9y ago

i wish i could do that. I seem to need 8-9 hours every freakin night and even then i still feel tired sometimes.