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Some of the critical points raised against Canonical regarding Mir can be seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(software)#Controversy https://en.wikipe

Some of the critical points raised against Canonical regarding Mir can be seen here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(software)#Controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(software)#Controversy This isn't a hate parade, it's the community speaking out against something they didn't want. Mostly related to licensing.

JdeBP 9y ago
Here is all of the stuff, filtered through Wikipedia's editorial process that is intended to eliminate unfounded personal opinion, stuff from unidentifiable sources, nonsense, and bias. Look, it isn't a hate parade; therefore there is no hate parade as M. Shuttleworth claimed. is a rather flawed argument, note.
- msimpson 9y ago
  > Here is all of the stuff, filtered through Wikipedia's editorial process that is intended to eliminate unfounded personal opinion, stuff from unidentifiable sources, nonsense, and bias. Look, it isn't a hate parade; therefore there is no hate parade as M. Shuttleworth claimed. Actually, that Wikipedia link is not meant as evidence against Shutterworth's comments or in defense of my own. It's provided merely as context to those who are just now hearing about this situation. No, my comment regarding the lack of a hate parade is supported only by common sense. A position easily taken once one digs a bit deeper into this subject. You should click through some of the actual references mentioned in (and outside of) that Wikipedia article: Matthew Garrett's comments, http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/25376.html http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/25376.html Bradley Kuhn's comments, http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/07/07/harmony-harmful.html http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/07/07/harmony-harmful.html Jonathan Riddell's comments, https://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/26/kubuntu-wont-be-switching-mir-or-xmir https://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/26/kubuntu-wont-be-switching-m... Aaron Seigo's comments, https://plus.google.com/+AaronSeigo/posts/76Nd9RSTZWp https://plus.google.com/+AaronSeigo/posts/76Nd9RSTZWp Then, tell me if these opinions or the community comments they generated actually seem hateful. In fact, the only substantial hate generated by this debacle was really in response to Canonical's unfounded swipe at Wayland, which was later retracted, and Shutterworth branding of opponents as "The Open Source Tea Party". And even that level of grandstanding only generated a modicum of hate from the community in comparison to things like systemd or SELinux.

JdeBP 9y ago

Here is all of the stuff, filtered through Wikipedia's editorial process that is intended to eliminate unfounded personal opinion, stuff from unidentifiable sources, nonsense, and bias. Look, it isn't a hate parade; therefore there is no hate parade as M. Shuttleworth claimed. is a rather flawed argument, note.

msimpson 9y ago
> Here is all of the stuff, filtered through Wikipedia's editorial process that is intended to eliminate unfounded personal opinion, stuff from unidentifiable sources, nonsense, and bias. Look, it isn't a hate parade; therefore there is no hate parade as M. Shuttleworth claimed. Actually, that Wikipedia link is not meant as evidence against Shutterworth's comments or in defense of my own. It's provided merely as context to those who are just now hearing about this situation. No, my comment regarding the lack of a hate parade is supported only by common sense. A position easily taken once one digs a bit deeper into this subject. You should click through some of the actual references mentioned in (and outside of) that Wikipedia article: Matthew Garrett's comments, http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/25376.html http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/25376.html Bradley Kuhn's comments, http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/07/07/harmony-harmful.html http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/07/07/harmony-harmful.html Jonathan Riddell's comments, https://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/26/kubuntu-wont-be-switching-mir-or-xmir https://blogs.kde.org/2013/06/26/kubuntu-wont-be-switching-m... Aaron Seigo's comments, https://plus.google.com/+AaronSeigo/posts/76Nd9RSTZWp https://plus.google.com/+AaronSeigo/posts/76Nd9RSTZWp Then, tell me if these opinions or the community comments they generated actually seem hateful. In fact, the only substantial hate generated by this debacle was really in response to Canonical's unfounded swipe at Wayland, which was later retracted, and Shutterworth branding of opponents as "The Open Source Tea Party". And even that level of grandstanding only generated a modicum of hate from the community in comparison to things like systemd or SELinux.