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> "I can't wait until we can grow zombies to pick cotton, then all the slaves can finally go free." Forcing (?) billions of people to change their eating habit

by jsz0 10y ago

> "I can't wait until we can grow zombies to pick cotton, then all the slaves can finally go free." Forcing (?) billions of people to change their eating habits is a far more difficult task than a quaint little Civil War to settle slavery.

corin_ 10y ago
America isn't the only country where slavery existed, and both slavery and animal welfare can be tackled in a region without having to change the entire world at the exact same moment. If enough people in, for example, the US felt as strongly about not eating animals as they do/did about not having human slaves, they could have another "quaint" civil war (or maybe a political argument that could achieve the same thing without bloodshed) and get to a point where it would be illegal to eat animals just as it's illegal to have slaves. (I'm neither American, nor a vegetarian, FWIW.)
- Chris2048 10y ago
  The same is true of anything. If enough people felt that everyone should go to church on Sunday, a civil war would settle that point too.
- legolas2412 10y ago
  Except, if I'm not harming any other human in any way, then why should they care what animals I choose to farm, kill and eat?
jmngomes 10y ago
Maybe that problem gets substantially easier to solve if we start educating people (and children) about what they're actually being fed, as well as imposing basic decency rules on how slaughterhouses and aviaries operate. I don't buy or eat cheap chicken because I know how it is bred/produced and it's both miserable for the animal as well as for anyone who eats it. I prefer paying twice as much for chicken and having it less often, which is what I do.
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projectorlochsa 10y ago
In absolute numbers there are more slaves today than in any moment in history of humanity. Speciesist and anthropocentric mentality that is reinforced by world's most popular ideologies - shallow postmodernism, christianity and other religious ideologies - is what keeps this stuff alive. It is a shame war is necessary to force people to abandon congitive dissonance and start making a better place of this world. At least we in first world countries have all the time to make the change and be the role model, but we seem to be doing business-as-usual, at least the majority of us.
- throwanem 10y ago
  > It is a shame war is necessary to force people to abandon congitive dissonance and start making a better place of this world. Yeah, there's nothing cognitively dissonant about the idea of making the world a better place through mass slaughter. You know, while we're talking of ideology keeping terrible ideas alive.

by jsz0 10y ago

corin_ 10y ago

America isn't the only country where slavery existed, and both slavery and animal welfare can be tackled in a region without having to change the entire world at the exact same moment. If enough people in, for example, the US felt as strongly about not eating animals as they do/did about not having human slaves, they could have another "quaint" civil war (or maybe a political argument that could achieve the same thing without bloodshed) and get to a point where it would be illegal to eat animals just as it's illegal to have slaves. (I'm neither American, nor a vegetarian, FWIW.)

Chris2048 10y ago
The same is true of anything. If enough people felt that everyone should go to church on Sunday, a civil war would settle that point too.
legolas2412 10y ago
Except, if I'm not harming any other human in any way, then why should they care what animals I choose to farm, kill and eat?

jmngomes 10y ago

Maybe that problem gets substantially easier to solve if we start educating people (and children) about what they're actually being fed, as well as imposing basic decency rules on how slaughterhouses and aviaries operate. I don't buy or eat cheap chicken because I know how it is bred/produced and it's both miserable for the animal as well as for anyone who eats it. I prefer paying twice as much for chicken and having it less often, which is what I do.

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projectorlochsa 10y ago

In absolute numbers there are more slaves today than in any moment in history of humanity. Speciesist and anthropocentric mentality that is reinforced by world's most popular ideologies - shallow postmodernism, christianity and other religious ideologies - is what keeps this stuff alive. It is a shame war is necessary to force people to abandon congitive dissonance and start making a better place of this world. At least we in first world countries have all the time to make the change and be the role model, but we seem to be doing business-as-usual, at least the majority of us.

throwanem 10y ago
> It is a shame war is necessary to force people to abandon congitive dissonance and start making a better place of this world. Yeah, there's nothing cognitively dissonant about the idea of making the world a better place through mass slaughter. You know, while we're talking of ideology keeping terrible ideas alive.