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While I consider microdosing an interesting concept, nobody should miss out on a well planned experience with a normal dose, in your favorite spot in nature, wi

by benevol 10y ago

While I consider microdosing an interesting concept, nobody should miss out on a well planned experience with a normal dose, in your favorite spot in nature, with carefully selected music, in perfect weather conditions. Also, read James Fadiman's classic [0] beforehand and "test before you ingest". [0] http://www.psychedelicexplorersguide.com http://www.psychedelicexplorersguide.com

ziikutv 10y ago
Psychedelics are unfortunately not for everyone. Some people have experienced permanent psychosis.
interfixus 10y ago
Please don't dictate what 'nobody' should 'miss out' on. I'm all for the fredom of anyone to ingest whatever strange concoctions take their fancy. Reciprocally, don't lean on those of us who are happy enough about the way our brains work without artificial flavouring.
- nefitty 10y ago
  Just because your radio came tuned to one station doesn't mean you gotta keep it that way.
  - kyledrake 10y ago
    Mine just keeps playing Limp Bizkit on loop. Am I using it correctly?
    - emjoes1 10y ago
      now that's a bad trip lol
  - interfixus 10y ago
    Which part in "I'm all for the fredom of anyone to ingest whatever strange concoctions take their fancy" do you not understand?
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    - nefitty 10y ago
      I'm curious as to what brought you to a thread about LSD if sobriety is such an integral part of your identity. Just as you took offense to someone recommending a psychedelic experience, I take offense at your notion that any state of mind besides the standard-issue one is "artificial flavouring." Anyways, I'll carry on with my weirdo ways.
- benevol 10y ago
  Sorry, didn't mean to dictate anything. Having had the opportunity to live the perfect experience thanks to this molecule, I simply wish it upon everybody. I honestly want this planet to step out of the shadow and be happy, that's all.
  - interfixus 10y ago
    Yeah, I got your vibe. Just taking the opportunity to state a point, nothing personal.
    - dguaraglia 10y ago
      On the contrary, seems to me the point you made is extremely personal. Your lashing out at someone for suggesting people "should" experiment with this or that expresses an opinion just as strong as that of the original poster.
      - gjm11 10y ago
        Lashing out? Seems rather strong given what s/he actually said.
- kentrado 10y ago
  > Please don't dictate what 'nobody' should 'miss out' on. I don't think he was being authoritative.
- snovv_crash 10y ago
  Agreed, it almost comes off as religious proselytizm.
- metaphorm 10y ago
  have you considered that perhaps you don't know what you don't know? or that your current state of happiness is not a limitation or prescription against trying new things?
  - interfixus 10y ago
    Yes.
    - metaphorm 10y ago
      so then, when you encounter something interesting and mysterious that a large number of people have experimented with and had positive results from, why is your reaction to say "absolutely fucking not"?
      - interfixus 10y ago
        Part of the reason may be that I absolutely fucking loathe the never ending evangelisation so many users of various chemical stimulants seem to glory in. A bigger part may be that I absolutely fucking dislike having my neurochemistry played silly games with, aka being drunk or stoned or tripping or whatever the requisite term may be. Staying in parent's vernacular idiom, assuming it to have some sort of point.
        metaphorm 10y ago
        alright, let me annoy you just one more time than we can part ways amicably. I fully respect everyone's liberty to do, or not do, whatever they want with their mind and body. That said, I believe that there are some experiences that can be massively beneficial and I do advocate for them because I believe it is a worthy cause. I'll say two things, briefly, so please forgive any necessary lack of detail due to abbreviation. First, is that absolutely everything you do has a profound impact on your neurochemistry. That's just how the animal brain works. The air you breather impacts it. The food you eat impacts it. Watching a TV show or movie impacts it. Doing your work at the office impacts it. Everything. There is no experience you can possible have that is not also governed by changes in your neurochemistry. It is an illusion to believe there is such a thing as a "pure" state of neurochemistry. The chemistry of your brain is a reflection of your inner and outer environment. Taking a drug that causes sensations inwardly, through neurochemical action, is not particularly different, from a brain chemistry point of view anyway, than doing something else with your body that causes sensations and corresponding changes in brain chemistry. Second, is that not all drugs are created equal and they shouldn't be lumped together any more than you would lump together, for example, all activities done with your legs. Just as you distinguish between the value of going for a nice walk in the woods, and jumping off a bridge, you ought to distinguish between the different varieties of drug induced experience. There are very very few that I would recommend on their own merits because the sensation that arises from them is inherently worthwhile. Most of them don't cause inherently worthwhile sensations to arise. Alcohol certainly doesn't. Most stimulants don't. There are only two classes of drugs that I think actually do cause worthwhile sensations to arise, on their own merits: entheogens (classic psychedelics like LSD and Psilocybin) and empathogens (MDMA, basically). Why do I say these drugs create experiences that are worthwhile on their own merits? It is hard to do any justice to it with any amount of words let alone so few. The only thing I can really say is that these experiences are incredibly powerful tools for the exploration of your own mind and soul. That's not something I would say about a thing intended merely for entertainment or stimulation. The psychedelic experience is not about entertainment or stimulation. It's about discovering the nature of your own mind.
- taohansen 10y ago
  “Artificial flavoring”? Well if this isn’t loaded... You, most of all, should do as he advises and get out of your conditioned shell and constricted perspective. He was trying to share some of the beauty he had experienced. Since you seem to have a hostile view to anything but the one you are normalized to, I suggest you go out there and experiment before you lay dying and wonder at all the joys you may have missed out on.
saiya-jin 10y ago
I am sure you mean well, but you are either to inexperienced or maybe a typical pothead which would like too see whole world happy and stoned/trippin'. There are probably > 1 billion of people on this planet who wouldn't be better off with strong psychedelics. Even after single dose, many would end up with worst ever nightmare that would take them months or years to shrug off (probably never completely), others could easily have their already-dormant psychosis manifest. You can try all you want with environment and setup, each of us is so unique that you can't cover everybody, in fact far from it. It's a very powerful experience, too powerful. Just talk to any psychiatric doctor, most insane asylums have at least few patients who didn't come back from various trips (various shrooms, acid, durman, ayahusca, mescalin and so on and on), and probably never will. Not everybody has body and mind resilience of Hunter S. Thompson.
bfuller 10y ago
I thought the same thing until a close friend of mine lost his mind after taking lsd one time. Maybe not EVERYONE (people with underlying mental issues) should experiment with drugs
- omarchowdhury 10y ago
  If he lost his mind, what is expressing through his body right now?
  - dafash 10y ago
    While jokes are a good way to deal with tragedy, the reality of being an acid causality is no laughing matter. My life has been over since my first trip over 20 years ago, about to implode
    - omarchowdhury 10y ago
      I wasn't making a joke. So how did LSD affect you?
      - dafash 10y ago
        Opens you up to a spiritual realm. I was not prepared for this. I was never the same. My life is basically a failure and I'm on the brink now.
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  - bfuller 10y ago
    he recovered but it was a very traumatic time for friends and family
    - 10y ago

by benevol 10y ago

ziikutv 10y ago

Psychedelics are unfortunately not for everyone. Some people have experienced permanent psychosis.

interfixus 10y ago

Please don't dictate what 'nobody' should 'miss out' on. I'm all for the fredom of anyone to ingest whatever strange concoctions take their fancy. Reciprocally, don't lean on those of us who are happy enough about the way our brains work without artificial flavouring.

nefitty 10y ago
Just because your radio came tuned to one station doesn't mean you gotta keep it that way.
- kyledrake 10y ago
  Mine just keeps playing Limp Bizkit on loop. Am I using it correctly?
  - emjoes1 10y ago
    now that's a bad trip lol
- interfixus 10y ago
  Which part in "I'm all for the fredom of anyone to ingest whatever strange concoctions take their fancy" do you not understand?
  - deleted 10y ago
    [deleted]
  - nefitty 10y ago
    I'm curious as to what brought you to a thread about LSD if sobriety is such an integral part of your identity. Just as you took offense to someone recommending a psychedelic experience, I take offense at your notion that any state of mind besides the standard-issue one is "artificial flavouring." Anyways, I'll carry on with my weirdo ways.
benevol 10y ago
Sorry, didn't mean to dictate anything. Having had the opportunity to live the perfect experience thanks to this molecule, I simply wish it upon everybody. I honestly want this planet to step out of the shadow and be happy, that's all.
- interfixus 10y ago
  Yeah, I got your vibe. Just taking the opportunity to state a point, nothing personal.
  - dguaraglia 10y ago
    On the contrary, seems to me the point you made is extremely personal. Your lashing out at someone for suggesting people "should" experiment with this or that expresses an opinion just as strong as that of the original poster.
    - gjm11 10y ago
      Lashing out? Seems rather strong given what s/he actually said.
kentrado 10y ago
> Please don't dictate what 'nobody' should 'miss out' on. I don't think he was being authoritative.
snovv_crash 10y ago
Agreed, it almost comes off as religious proselytizm.
metaphorm 10y ago
have you considered that perhaps you don't know what you don't know? or that your current state of happiness is not a limitation or prescription against trying new things?
- interfixus 10y ago
  Yes.
  - metaphorm 10y ago
    so then, when you encounter something interesting and mysterious that a large number of people have experimented with and had positive results from, why is your reaction to say "absolutely fucking not"?
    - interfixus 10y ago
      Part of the reason may be that I absolutely fucking loathe the never ending evangelisation so many users of various chemical stimulants seem to glory in. A bigger part may be that I absolutely fucking dislike having my neurochemistry played silly games with, aka being drunk or stoned or tripping or whatever the requisite term may be. Staying in parent's vernacular idiom, assuming it to have some sort of point.
      - metaphorm 10y ago
        alright, let me annoy you just one more time than we can part ways amicably. I fully respect everyone's liberty to do, or not do, whatever they want with their mind and body. That said, I believe that there are some experiences that can be massively beneficial and I do advocate for them because I believe it is a worthy cause. I'll say two things, briefly, so please forgive any necessary lack of detail due to abbreviation. First, is that absolutely everything you do has a profound impact on your neurochemistry. That's just how the animal brain works. The air you breather impacts it. The food you eat impacts it. Watching a TV show or movie impacts it. Doing your work at the office impacts it. Everything. There is no experience you can possible have that is not also governed by changes in your neurochemistry. It is an illusion to believe there is such a thing as a "pure" state of neurochemistry. The chemistry of your brain is a reflection of your inner and outer environment. Taking a drug that causes sensations inwardly, through neurochemical action, is not particularly different, from a brain chemistry point of view anyway, than doing something else with your body that causes sensations and corresponding changes in brain chemistry. Second, is that not all drugs are created equal and they shouldn't be lumped together any more than you would lump together, for example, all activities done with your legs. Just as you distinguish between the value of going for a nice walk in the woods, and jumping off a bridge, you ought to distinguish between the different varieties of drug induced experience. There are very very few that I would recommend on their own merits because the sensation that arises from them is inherently worthwhile. Most of them don't cause inherently worthwhile sensations to arise. Alcohol certainly doesn't. Most stimulants don't. There are only two classes of drugs that I think actually do cause worthwhile sensations to arise, on their own merits: entheogens (classic psychedelics like LSD and Psilocybin) and empathogens (MDMA, basically). Why do I say these drugs create experiences that are worthwhile on their own merits? It is hard to do any justice to it with any amount of words let alone so few. The only thing I can really say is that these experiences are incredibly powerful tools for the exploration of your own mind and soul. That's not something I would say about a thing intended merely for entertainment or stimulation. The psychedelic experience is not about entertainment or stimulation. It's about discovering the nature of your own mind.
taohansen 10y ago
“Artificial flavoring”? Well if this isn’t loaded... You, most of all, should do as he advises and get out of your conditioned shell and constricted perspective. He was trying to share some of the beauty he had experienced. Since you seem to have a hostile view to anything but the one you are normalized to, I suggest you go out there and experiment before you lay dying and wonder at all the joys you may have missed out on.

saiya-jin 10y ago

I am sure you mean well, but you are either to inexperienced or maybe a typical pothead which would like too see whole world happy and stoned/trippin'. There are probably > 1 billion of people on this planet who wouldn't be better off with strong psychedelics. Even after single dose, many would end up with worst ever nightmare that would take them months or years to shrug off (probably never completely), others could easily have their already-dormant psychosis manifest. You can try all you want with environment and setup, each of us is so unique that you can't cover everybody, in fact far from it. It's a very powerful experience, too powerful. Just talk to any psychiatric doctor, most insane asylums have at least few patients who didn't come back from various trips (various shrooms, acid, durman, ayahusca, mescalin and so on and on), and probably never will. Not everybody has body and mind resilience of Hunter S. Thompson.

bfuller 10y ago

I thought the same thing until a close friend of mine lost his mind after taking lsd one time. Maybe not EVERYONE (people with underlying mental issues) should experiment with drugs

omarchowdhury 10y ago
If he lost his mind, what is expressing through his body right now?
- dafash 10y ago
  While jokes are a good way to deal with tragedy, the reality of being an acid causality is no laughing matter. My life has been over since my first trip over 20 years ago, about to implode
  - omarchowdhury 10y ago
    I wasn't making a joke. So how did LSD affect you?
    - dafash 10y ago
      Opens you up to a spiritual realm. I was not prepared for this. I was never the same. My life is basically a failure and I'm on the brink now.
    - deleted 10y ago
      [deleted]
- deleted 10y ago
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- bfuller 10y ago
  he recovered but it was a very traumatic time for friends and family
  - 10y ago