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Best summary here, came to this thread all excited for some technical talk, a bit disappointing to see it immediately descend into the madness of the reddit-sch

Best summary here, came to this thread all excited for some technical talk, a bit disappointing to see it immediately descend into the madness of the reddit-schism and bitcointalk Feels pointless trying to argue an opinion lately, all the arguments have been made ad nauseum, nothing new is being said, all that exists is a WW1 trench warfare stalemate. If proven, having Asicboost hardware seriously undermines Wu et al, but fear the fact will change little. People have taken sides, it's very hard to undo such a thing. Note there currently is no proof of these claims, it's legitimacy from authority, would be wonderful to see some proof, and who exactly did the testing on the chip? In such a highly politicised environment, evidence is far preferable to sledging your opponent for a week and then backtracking once the damage is done. Regardless, Asicboost would explain recent actions by mining pools that looks like self-harm to outsiders. ### On a lighter note ### >I was heavily involved in the Bitcoin community a few years ago, but have been on the side lines recently. Apt username

fpgaminer 9y ago
> Note there currently is no proof of these claims, it's legitimacy from authority, would be wonderful to see some proof, and who exactly did the testing on the chip? In such a highly politicised environment, evidence is far preferable to sledging your opponent for a week and then backtracking once the damage is done. Didn't Bitmain themselves confirm their chips support ASICBoost? I mean, they do hold a patent for it ... and tested it. So... But, sure, that's not proof they've been _using_ covert ASICBOOST on mainnet. We'll see what happens when the patch gets pushed through that fixes covert ASICBOOST. If Bitmain complains about it, or suddenly their economic strength weakens, then, well... > Apt username Yeah ... it's a shame I never pivoted our company into developing ASICs. Would have been nice to have another non-scam company in the mix, but ... such as it is. Nowadays I'd have go raise an order of magnitude more money to get started :/
- _coldfire 9y ago
  Bitmain claims they don't use it on mainnet https://blog.bitmain.com/en/ https://blog.bitmain.com/en/ >Our ASIC chips, like those of some other manufacturers, have a circuit design that supports ASICBOOST. However, the ASICBOOST method has not been used by us on the mainnet. We have not seen any evidence yet on the main net that anyone has used it in the patented way.

fpgaminer 9y ago

> Note there currently is no proof of these claims, it's legitimacy from authority, would be wonderful to see some proof, and who exactly did the testing on the chip? In such a highly politicised environment, evidence is far preferable to sledging your opponent for a week and then backtracking once the damage is done. Didn't Bitmain themselves confirm their chips support ASICBoost? I mean, they do hold a patent for it ... and tested it. So... But, sure, that's not proof they've been _using_ covert ASICBOOST on mainnet. We'll see what happens when the patch gets pushed through that fixes covert ASICBOOST. If Bitmain complains about it, or suddenly their economic strength weakens, then, well... > Apt username Yeah ... it's a shame I never pivoted our company into developing ASICs. Would have been nice to have another non-scam company in the mix, but ... such as it is. Nowadays I'd have go raise an order of magnitude more money to get started :/

_coldfire 9y ago
Bitmain claims they don't use it on mainnet https://blog.bitmain.com/en/ https://blog.bitmain.com/en/ >Our ASIC chips, like those of some other manufacturers, have a circuit design that supports ASICBOOST. However, the ASICBOOST method has not been used by us on the mainnet. We have not seen any evidence yet on the main net that anyone has used it in the patented way.