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Articles like this - and the comments that follow - always overlook the primary value of job interviews, which to me is answering the question: "Do I want to wo
by inopinatus 10y ago
Articles like this - and the comments that follow - always overlook the primary value of job interviews, which to me is answering the question: "Do I want to work for this company?"
- sverige 10y agoAnd articles like this are almost universally written from the perspective of someone being interviewed, rather than the one interviewing.
- IIIIIIIIIIII 10y agoThe article that I just read following the submitted link was from the perspective of neither, but of someone looking at the hiring process as an observer. The anecdotes are anecdotes and they don't matter except to lighten up a newspaper article for the masses, so we can ignore them - I'm talking about what was actually studied.
- throwaway9475 10y agoSure, because poor management, crippling technical debt, and a toxic work environment are totally plainly presented to you in an interview. /s
- inopinatus 10y agoNot plainly, no, but easily inferred.
- throwaway9475 10y agoYou should publish because I know I and a lot of other people would be incredibly interested in divining this information during a job interview.
- flukus 10y agoThe best I've come up with is a few proxies, like their deployment process. Someone doing continuous or frequent deployments probably have pretty decent code quality. A company that takes several weeks, several rounds of QA and a dozen release documents that need to be signed in triplicate, they have that process because they've been burned and need scapegoats when the inevitable happens. The best part is that most people at companies like this aren't aware that it's not normal, so they'll be open about it.
- inopinatus 10y agoYeah, that's basically all it takes. Talk to engineers about their everyday processes. (If the company doesn't let you talk to their engineers during the interview process, or if they're unwilling to discuss, consider that the huge red flag).
- tianlins 10y agoThis might not be true given just a couple of hours staying in the office and talking to people. Management issues / technical debt are not visible until you work for the company.
- tptacek 10y agoThey're not ignoring that value; that's simply not what they're writing about. I don't think anyone is advocating for sight-unseen hiring. The problem is with using interviews as a candidate qualification mechanism, where they simply do not work.