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> GM crops and radio frequency exposure probably incur a risk to our health, but the imminent benefit of having radio transmission and greater crop yields in a

> GM crops and radio frequency exposure probably incur a risk to our health, but the imminent benefit of having radio transmission and greater crop yields in a world which still has starving people outweigh the longer term risks to society. I've heard this often when it comes to GMO crops ("we need these to feed starving people"), but I'm not sure how much evidence there is for it. There was an New York Times investigation into GMO vs. non-GMO crop yields recently where they found no discernible difference between the two[1]. I've heard some criticism of the article, but most of the criticism I've seen comes from people who have decided ahead of time that GMO's are wonderful and any criticism of them is bad. Also, from what I've seen the problems with food scarcity don't stem from low crop yields but rather from distribution. I don't think seeing it as a crop yield problem is the right way to approach it. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/business/gmo-promise-falls-short.html?_r=0 https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/business/gmo-promise-fall...

pm90 10y ago
> Also, from what I've seen the problems with food scarcity don't stem from low crop yields but rather from distribution. I don't think seeing it as a crop yield problem is the right way to approach it. Absolutely agree on this one. The world produces enough food (well, cereal grains) to feed everyone. However, I would still argue that increasing crop yields is incredibly important for the species as a whole. Better yields means lesser land required for cultivation. You basically reduce the environmental footprint of agriculture and I think this would be incredibly important e.g. in Africa where you either may not have a lot of Arable land OR might not want to cut down virgin forests just to feed your people.
7sigma 10y ago
A lot of of the criticism of GMOs is based on flawed science and misleading use of statistics That article you linked was flawed on quite a few levels. It argued for example that France was able to reduce its levels of pesticides without using GMOs and used percentages to show the reduction, thereby arguing that GMOs are not necessary But looking at absolute values, France had a far higher use of pesticides and insecticides and even after the reduction it is still higher than the US, although in the US herbicide use has gone up (primarily glyphosate, but that replaced other more toxic herbicides). Greater crop yield means more efficient use of the land and resources. I agree we produce more than enough food but reducing yield is not the answer. Also we've barely scratched the surface in terms of using the potential of GE. [1] http://weedcontrolfreaks.com/2016/10/the-tiresome-discussion-of-initial-gmo-expectations/ http://weedcontrolfreaks.com/2016/10/the-tiresome-discussion...

pm90 10y ago

> Also, from what I've seen the problems with food scarcity don't stem from low crop yields but rather from distribution. I don't think seeing it as a crop yield problem is the right way to approach it. Absolutely agree on this one. The world produces enough food (well, cereal grains) to feed everyone. However, I would still argue that increasing crop yields is incredibly important for the species as a whole. Better yields means lesser land required for cultivation. You basically reduce the environmental footprint of agriculture and I think this would be incredibly important e.g. in Africa where you either may not have a lot of Arable land OR might not want to cut down virgin forests just to feed your people.

7sigma 10y ago

A lot of of the criticism of GMOs is based on flawed science and misleading use of statistics That article you linked was flawed on quite a few levels. It argued for example that France was able to reduce its levels of pesticides without using GMOs and used percentages to show the reduction, thereby arguing that GMOs are not necessary But looking at absolute values, France had a far higher use of pesticides and insecticides and even after the reduction it is still higher than the US, although in the US herbicide use has gone up (primarily glyphosate, but that replaced other more toxic herbicides). Greater crop yield means more efficient use of the land and resources. I agree we produce more than enough food but reducing yield is not the answer. Also we've barely scratched the surface in terms of using the potential of GE. [1] http://weedcontrolfreaks.com/2016/10/the-tiresome-discussion-of-initial-gmo-expectations/ http://weedcontrolfreaks.com/2016/10/the-tiresome-discussion...