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I checked out at "I am not yet a programmer." If the author had spent the time required to write this blog post (and all the others) learning to code...Shazam,

by crikli 10y ago

I checked out at "I am not yet a programmer." If the author had spent the time required to write this blog post (and all the others) learning to code...Shazam, they'd be a programmer. Maybe a few less replays of The Little Mermaid and a few books from the library on assembly language or even Basic (don't scoff, that's what I did as an 11 year old in the 80s). Stop talking about it and start doing it. The resources to do so have never been more readily available.

proaralyst 10y ago
Given you stopped reading at that point, you entirely missed the point of the article: that open source _is not_ just about code and yet non-code contributions are undervalued. Perhaps go back to the article and continue reading before jumping to conclusions.
- crikli 10y ago
  I didn't stop reading, I checked out on her argument. What the author was saying was compelling up to the point she admitted she couldn't code. Non-code contributions have value, however if you don't have the engineering understanding to grasp the full context of a project your perspective likely isn't going to be taken seriously. With all of the resources available now to learn to code, I just don't have any sympathy for her. At all. She doesn't need to be contributing to every project in order to have an opinion worth considering, she just needs to be able to demonstrate some level of development chops.
  - nebabyte 10y ago
    > I didn't stop reading, I checked out on her argument. Then if you had spent the time required to belittle the author on lack of coding ability to address the very valid commentary provided on communal work... Shazam, you'd have gotten your point across to proaralyst. Maybe a few less condescending chidings and nostalgic recountings of 'your youth in the 80s' and a few quotations to counterargue (don't scoff, that's what many people do in discussion)? Stop talking about 'checking out' of useful discourse and start having it. The resources to do so have never been more readily available. :)
nebabyte 10y ago
> I checked out at "I am not yet a programmer." Comments that lead with "I immediately stopped reading" are puzzling. If you could not sit through someone else's opinion long enough to get to their actual point, that's fine - but then you turn around and expect others to humor your recounting of that experience rather than the thread topic and read commentary that necessarily won't have anything to do with the main topic? For that matter, why would other thread readers want to read a opinion self-declared as ignorant of the whole topic, which is likely to miss out on key points? It certainly does in this case - the author raises a valid concern within the OSS environment of the lack of incentive for 'useful nonglamorous' grunt work, yet your comment instead waxes nostalgia for your days as an 11 year old. Discounting another's opinion simply at the point that their experiences and perspective diverges from your own (and those you consider acceptable) is practically one of the cardinal sins of open and rational thought and discussion. Frankly, I'm surprised you're flaunting it so proudly and openly.

by crikli 10y ago

proaralyst 10y ago

Given you stopped reading at that point, you entirely missed the point of the article: that open source _is not_ just about code and yet non-code contributions are undervalued. Perhaps go back to the article and continue reading before jumping to conclusions.

crikli 10y ago
I didn't stop reading, I checked out on her argument. What the author was saying was compelling up to the point she admitted she couldn't code. Non-code contributions have value, however if you don't have the engineering understanding to grasp the full context of a project your perspective likely isn't going to be taken seriously. With all of the resources available now to learn to code, I just don't have any sympathy for her. At all. She doesn't need to be contributing to every project in order to have an opinion worth considering, she just needs to be able to demonstrate some level of development chops.
- nebabyte 10y ago
  > I didn't stop reading, I checked out on her argument. Then if you had spent the time required to belittle the author on lack of coding ability to address the very valid commentary provided on communal work... Shazam, you'd have gotten your point across to proaralyst. Maybe a few less condescending chidings and nostalgic recountings of 'your youth in the 80s' and a few quotations to counterargue (don't scoff, that's what many people do in discussion)? Stop talking about 'checking out' of useful discourse and start having it. The resources to do so have never been more readily available. :)

nebabyte 10y ago

> I checked out at "I am not yet a programmer." Comments that lead with "I immediately stopped reading" are puzzling. If you could not sit through someone else's opinion long enough to get to their actual point, that's fine - but then you turn around and expect others to humor your recounting of that experience rather than the thread topic and read commentary that necessarily won't have anything to do with the main topic? For that matter, why would other thread readers want to read a opinion self-declared as ignorant of the whole topic, which is likely to miss out on key points? It certainly does in this case - the author raises a valid concern within the OSS environment of the lack of incentive for 'useful nonglamorous' grunt work, yet your comment instead waxes nostalgia for your days as an 11 year old. Discounting another's opinion simply at the point that their experiences and perspective diverges from your own (and those you consider acceptable) is practically one of the cardinal sins of open and rational thought and discussion. Frankly, I'm surprised you're flaunting it so proudly and openly.