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First, Mir: I believe fragmentation is a very big issue in the Free Software world. Since both Mir and Wayland wanted to work towards the same goal with minor
by hashhar 10y ago
First, Mir:
I believe fragmentation is a very big issue in the Free Software world. Since both Mir and Wayland wanted to work towards the same goal with minor differences in details, they should have banded together and have had proper discussions regarding both their ideas. It encourages better solutions and sometimes new things are born.
Mir was also never as performant as Wayland and didn't have any window manager apart from Unity to test with.
Unity:
I personally don't have a thing against Unity but there were (16.04 days) some inconveniences like being unable to customize the dock. The separate toolbar and menu bar. GNOME does have thicker titlebars but combines toolbars, menubars and titlebars in their native apps.
GNOME also has a rich ecosystem of extensions. (Please stop breaking them through updates GNOME!!!). GNOME has a better universal search than Unity, is comparatively faster and snappier than Unity.
GNOME suffers from the problem of poor defaults which are easily fixed by distribution vendors. (Kali Linux ships with a dock, topbar and other IMO necessary extensions.)
- jmcdiesel 10y ago"Since both Mir and Wayland wanted to work towards the same goal with minor differences in details, they should have banded together and have had proper discussions regarding both their ideas." Thats an ideal world... but we know that the egos that drive open source projects are not keen on banding together... they need THEIR project to be the best one, even if it only differs in completely minor ways that are all but hidden from the user.
- hashhar 10y agoI agree. It's not just limited to software development. Take politics, food or business partners splitting off companies for example. But it's something that has a higher chance of happening in the open-source world than anywhere else.
- pkd 10y agoI think Wayland development was lagging when Ubuntu started with Mir. That did light a fire under Wayland's behind because it has seen considerable improvement since. The way Canonical handled the announcement of Mir is debatable but I think Mir has been a positive influence as a whole.