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Neato, how do we avoid exposure to that pesticide?

by salesguy222 10y ago

kanyewest_ 10y ago
YOU AIN'T GOT THE ANSWERS, SWAY
- sctb 10y ago
  Please don't create new accounts to violate the guidelines with. We ban the main account in addition to the throwaways if you do.
PaulHoule 10y ago
It is not just one pesticide, it is a whole family of pesticides that include Malathion, Parathion, Diazinon and more. These are related both in terms of chemistry and mechanism of action to nerve gases such as Sarin and VX. Don't use them on your lawn and garden, eat organic produce as much as you can, and beware of fruits and vegetables that are likely to expose you to pesticides, see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135239/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135239/ Overall I would be much more afraid of occupational exposure than pesticide residues
- salesguy222 10y ago
  Thank you for your helpful and thoughtful reply! Potatoes and spinach are two of my dietary staples, so it is alarming to see them on the "dirty dozen" list. Would scrubbing, washing, peeling, cooking, etc do something to the "pesticide residue" found on these vegetables? Occupational exposure is real and serious, and shows what might happen with chronic exposure. There are documentaries and videos that show the hands of field workers in California. They bubble and peel and blister and discolor, all from pesticides.
  - PaulHoule 10y ago
    Yes, all of those things will help.
  - efm 10y ago
    tl;dr The "dirty dozen" list is not backed up by evidence. If you read the conclusion of the paper: In summary, findings conclusively demonstrate that consumer exposures to the ten most frequently detected pesticides on EWG's “Dirty Dozen” commodity list are at negligible levels and that the EWG methodology is insufficient to allow any meaningful rankings among commodities. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135239/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135239/
  - rpenm 10y ago
    From the cited paper: "In summary, findings conclusively demonstrate that consumer exposures to the ten most frequently detected pesticides on EWG's “Dirty Dozen” commodity list are at negligible levels and that the EWG methodology is insufficient to allow any meaningful rankings among commodities."
krona 10y ago
Unsurprisingly, insect-resident crops. If you're in the US, there's a good chance you're already doing it. Farmers generally use less insecticide when they plant Bt corn and Bt cotton. Corn insecticide use by both GE seed adopters and nonadopters has decreased—only 9 percent of all U.S. corn farmers used insecticides in 2010. Insecticide use on corn farms declined from 0.21 pound per planted acre in 1995 to 0.02 pound in 2010. This is consistent with the steady decline in European corn borer populations over the last decade that has been shown to be a direct result of Bt adoption. --Fernandez-Cornejo and Caswell, 2006; NRC, 2010
- clord 10y ago
  With bt, use is down but the plant itself is producing it! I think that's more likely to cause exposure.
  - krona 10y ago
    If you're talking about Bacillus thuringiensis or the toxin it produces, it occurs naturally in all kinds of things.
- sebleon 10y ago
  I can't tell if krona is trolling. We're exposing people to more insecticides in their diet when the plant itself produces insecticides! At least spraying puts insecticides on the outside of the plant, which is somewhat washable. Making the kernels of corn that we eat produce insecticides makes it impossible to remove these chemicals from our dinner plates....
  - maxerickson 10y ago
    As a layperson, I'm pretty sure I'd rather eat corn laced with Bt than corn with organophosphates rinsed off.
    - sebleon 10y ago
      That's kind of a strawman argument - what about corn laced with organophosphates vs corn that's been genetically modified to generate organophosphates in the kernels?
DanBC 10y ago
Don't sell it or apply it to your fields. > Based on the survey executed among the pesticide users including pesticide applicators, farmers, and pesticide sellers
notadoc 10y ago
Eat organic food

Neato, how do we avoid exposure to that pesticide?

kanyewest_ 10y ago

YOU AIN'T GOT THE ANSWERS, SWAY

sctb 10y ago
Please don't create new accounts to violate the guidelines with. We ban the main account in addition to the throwaways if you do.

PaulHoule 10y ago

It is not just one pesticide, it is a whole family of pesticides that include Malathion, Parathion, Diazinon and more. These are related both in terms of chemistry and mechanism of action to nerve gases such as Sarin and VX. Don't use them on your lawn and garden, eat organic produce as much as you can, and beware of fruits and vegetables that are likely to expose you to pesticides, see https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135239/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135239/ Overall I would be much more afraid of occupational exposure than pesticide residues

salesguy222 10y ago
Thank you for your helpful and thoughtful reply! Potatoes and spinach are two of my dietary staples, so it is alarming to see them on the "dirty dozen" list. Would scrubbing, washing, peeling, cooking, etc do something to the "pesticide residue" found on these vegetables? Occupational exposure is real and serious, and shows what might happen with chronic exposure. There are documentaries and videos that show the hands of field workers in California. They bubble and peel and blister and discolor, all from pesticides.
- PaulHoule 10y ago
  Yes, all of those things will help.
- efm 10y ago
  tl;dr The "dirty dozen" list is not backed up by evidence. If you read the conclusion of the paper: In summary, findings conclusively demonstrate that consumer exposures to the ten most frequently detected pesticides on EWG's “Dirty Dozen” commodity list are at negligible levels and that the EWG methodology is insufficient to allow any meaningful rankings among commodities. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135239/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135239/
- rpenm 10y ago
  From the cited paper: "In summary, findings conclusively demonstrate that consumer exposures to the ten most frequently detected pesticides on EWG's “Dirty Dozen” commodity list are at negligible levels and that the EWG methodology is insufficient to allow any meaningful rankings among commodities."

krona 10y ago

Unsurprisingly, insect-resident crops. If you're in the US, there's a good chance you're already doing it. Farmers generally use less insecticide when they plant Bt corn and Bt cotton. Corn insecticide use by both GE seed adopters and nonadopters has decreased—only 9 percent of all U.S. corn farmers used insecticides in 2010. Insecticide use on corn farms declined from 0.21 pound per planted acre in 1995 to 0.02 pound in 2010. This is consistent with the steady decline in European corn borer populations over the last decade that has been shown to be a direct result of Bt adoption. --Fernandez-Cornejo and Caswell, 2006; NRC, 2010

clord 10y ago
With bt, use is down but the plant itself is producing it! I think that's more likely to cause exposure.
- krona 10y ago
  If you're talking about Bacillus thuringiensis or the toxin it produces, it occurs naturally in all kinds of things.
sebleon 10y ago
I can't tell if krona is trolling. We're exposing people to more insecticides in their diet when the plant itself produces insecticides! At least spraying puts insecticides on the outside of the plant, which is somewhat washable. Making the kernels of corn that we eat produce insecticides makes it impossible to remove these chemicals from our dinner plates....
- maxerickson 10y ago
  As a layperson, I'm pretty sure I'd rather eat corn laced with Bt than corn with organophosphates rinsed off.
  - sebleon 10y ago
    That's kind of a strawman argument - what about corn laced with organophosphates vs corn that's been genetically modified to generate organophosphates in the kernels?

DanBC 10y ago

Don't sell it or apply it to your fields. > Based on the survey executed among the pesticide users including pesticide applicators, farmers, and pesticide sellers

notadoc 10y ago

Eat organic food