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I have sleep apnea and so coffee is just basic and very necessary bootstrapping for me in the morning. There's no such thing as getting enough sleep for me.

Harelin 10y ago
Are you not treating your sleep apnea?
- Hydraulix989 10y ago
  Trying my best using state of the art. CPAP only gets me 60% of the way there in terms of feeling rested (which is a common occurrence according to one of the best sleep surgeons in the world). Surgery is intense and also costs 100k (it is out of network for every major PPO insurance). The most likely to be successful procedure entails painfully breaking your jaw and moving it forward with metal plates. The recovery is brutal and requires a month long Soylent diet. Other procedures involve iteratively carving out more and more soft tissue in your tonsils until there is no more obstruction. Sleep apnea treatment is still a pretty unsolved problem in medicine. Only half of patients end up complying with wearing the very uncomfortable CPAP breathing mask for more than four hours a night, most can't even tolerate it at all.
  - DenisM 10y ago
    Be certain to try all possible CPAP masks, the sleep center should Let you try one after another. Different masks work for different people. Every type of mask has unique problems, so be sure to visit various forums and search for clues. Also there is a dental appliance that pushes the lower jaw forward to open the airways. Look into that. If your insurance doesnt cover it you can buy an off-label "anti-snore" boil-and-bite device that does the same thing.
  - colordrops 10y ago
    Are you overweight? Do you eat a simple diet that takes account of possible allergies? Do you get a lot of exercise? Do you work at a desk job in a hunched position that has curved your spine and pushed vertebrae into your throat?
    - Hydraulix989 10y ago
      > Are you overweight? No. I weigh 150 lbs (6 feet tall), same since high school. > Do you eat a simple diet that takes account of possible allergies? No allergies, and I'm doing better now with diet. > Do you get a lot of exercise? I run 2-3 days a week (2-3 miles per run). Used to be a state competitor in high school for distance running. > Do you work at a desk job in a hunched position that has curved your spine and pushed vertebrae into your throat? Absolutely. I sit at my desk 10+ hours a day, and my posture definitely could be a hell of a lot better.
jsudhams 10y ago
Please if you can try , try Ayurveda intensive treatment for 10 days and then followup with 3 months medicine. I tired after Resperonics devices etc . It is gone now , habit-ed sleep on side as well as that helps too. It is was bloody cheap in India for me but you should be able to take 10 days leave if you outside India and come and get this done. Please choose good hospital.
- Hydraulix989 10y ago
  Sounds like pseudoscience, not helpful, sorry. Remember, obstructive sleep apnea is caused by a physical _obstruction_. You need to either address the obstruction by splinting it open using pressurized air (CPAP) or by physically making more room via surgical techniques. Ingesting herbs doesn't address anything in terms of there being an obstruction, so it doesn't treat sleep apnea. EDIT: Why am I getting downvoted? I am suffering from a debilitating medical disorder, and people are suggesting I need to drink snake oil or accept the flying spaghetti monster in order to heal myself. Of course, I am going to get a little upset. Please try to understand my perspective.
  - colordrops 10y ago
    You are getting downvoted because you are speaking like you are the authority on truth and also comparing an ancient traditional health system to a petty joke.
    - Hydraulix989 10y ago
      The authority on truth is the data itself -- my polysomnogram that shows I stop breathing 30 times an hour in my sleep when my tongue collapses, and then this number becomes 2 with CPAP. Like most technologists who frequent this site, I'm all for following the scientific method and gathering data through repeatable experiments that test hypotheses, and I'm against petty tradition ("we've always done it this way" is a very counterproductive/backwards way of thinking that also precludes progress -- as an entrepreneurial community, we tend to think differently and to challenge established beliefs here on HN).
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Harelin 10y ago

Are you not treating your sleep apnea?

Hydraulix989 10y ago
Trying my best using state of the art. CPAP only gets me 60% of the way there in terms of feeling rested (which is a common occurrence according to one of the best sleep surgeons in the world). Surgery is intense and also costs 100k (it is out of network for every major PPO insurance). The most likely to be successful procedure entails painfully breaking your jaw and moving it forward with metal plates. The recovery is brutal and requires a month long Soylent diet. Other procedures involve iteratively carving out more and more soft tissue in your tonsils until there is no more obstruction. Sleep apnea treatment is still a pretty unsolved problem in medicine. Only half of patients end up complying with wearing the very uncomfortable CPAP breathing mask for more than four hours a night, most can't even tolerate it at all.
- DenisM 10y ago
  Be certain to try all possible CPAP masks, the sleep center should Let you try one after another. Different masks work for different people. Every type of mask has unique problems, so be sure to visit various forums and search for clues. Also there is a dental appliance that pushes the lower jaw forward to open the airways. Look into that. If your insurance doesnt cover it you can buy an off-label "anti-snore" boil-and-bite device that does the same thing.
- colordrops 10y ago
  Are you overweight? Do you eat a simple diet that takes account of possible allergies? Do you get a lot of exercise? Do you work at a desk job in a hunched position that has curved your spine and pushed vertebrae into your throat?
  - Hydraulix989 10y ago
    > Are you overweight? No. I weigh 150 lbs (6 feet tall), same since high school. > Do you eat a simple diet that takes account of possible allergies? No allergies, and I'm doing better now with diet. > Do you get a lot of exercise? I run 2-3 days a week (2-3 miles per run). Used to be a state competitor in high school for distance running. > Do you work at a desk job in a hunched position that has curved your spine and pushed vertebrae into your throat? Absolutely. I sit at my desk 10+ hours a day, and my posture definitely could be a hell of a lot better.

jsudhams 10y ago

Please if you can try , try Ayurveda intensive treatment for 10 days and then followup with 3 months medicine. I tired after Resperonics devices etc . It is gone now , habit-ed sleep on side as well as that helps too. It is was bloody cheap in India for me but you should be able to take 10 days leave if you outside India and come and get this done. Please choose good hospital.

Hydraulix989 10y ago
Sounds like pseudoscience, not helpful, sorry. Remember, obstructive sleep apnea is caused by a physical _obstruction_. You need to either address the obstruction by splinting it open using pressurized air (CPAP) or by physically making more room via surgical techniques. Ingesting herbs doesn't address anything in terms of there being an obstruction, so it doesn't treat sleep apnea. EDIT: Why am I getting downvoted? I am suffering from a debilitating medical disorder, and people are suggesting I need to drink snake oil or accept the flying spaghetti monster in order to heal myself. Of course, I am going to get a little upset. Please try to understand my perspective.
- colordrops 10y ago
  You are getting downvoted because you are speaking like you are the authority on truth and also comparing an ancient traditional health system to a petty joke.
  - Hydraulix989 10y ago
    The authority on truth is the data itself -- my polysomnogram that shows I stop breathing 30 times an hour in my sleep when my tongue collapses, and then this number becomes 2 with CPAP. Like most technologists who frequent this site, I'm all for following the scientific method and gathering data through repeatable experiments that test hypotheses, and I'm against petty tradition ("we've always done it this way" is a very counterproductive/backwards way of thinking that also precludes progress -- as an entrepreneurial community, we tend to think differently and to challenge established beliefs here on HN).

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