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paradite is saying it's not well documented. It's poorly documented by people highly incentivised to lie. But hey, if you already wrote off anyone who disagree

paradite is saying it's not well documented. It's poorly documented by people highly incentivised to lie. But hey, if you already wrote off anyone who disagrees as "delusional or paid shills" then you're too far gone to reason with. Literally nothing anybody ever says can make you think twice.

doktrin 9y ago
> poorly documented Uh huh https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolls_from_Olgino https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolls_from_Olgino https://themoscowtimes.com/news/st-petersburg-troll-factory-attacked-with-molotov-cocktails-55900 https://themoscowtimes.com/news/st-petersburg-troll-factory-... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-... https://www.inopressa.ru/article/03Jun2014/buzzfeed/web_rus.html https://www.inopressa.ru/article/03Jun2014/buzzfeed/web_rus.... https://globalvoices.org/2015/04/02/analyzing-kremlin-twitter-bots/ https://globalvoices.org/2015/04/02/analyzing-kremlin-twitte... > if you already wrote off anyone who disagrees as "delusional or paid shills" then you're too far gone to reason with. Literally nothing anybody ever says can make you think twice. Not true, but it would definitely take more than that hand-wavy uncertainty yarn you're trying to spin
- seppin 9y ago
  I honestly think HN is the target of some of these trolls as well.
  - mistermann 9y ago
    A significant percentage of younger (as well as non-younger for that matter) people have practically no exposure to mainstream media, so naturally one should expect propaganda (from the various players) will be brought to online forums of all kinds.
    - seppin 9y ago
      I feel HN has been specifically targeted as a source of above-average discourse, therefore it must be comprised.
- zigzigzag 9y ago
  Both the NY Times and the Guardian seem to hate Russia and all things Russian. I constantly read things in those publications that are ludicrously biased or simply wrong. They don't count as credible sources to me anymore. And as was already pointed out, you stated that "Russia sponsors" but even the first article states that the alleged project is the work of one guy who apparently has money to burn - not the government.

doktrin 9y ago

> poorly documented Uh huh https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolls_from_Olgino https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolls_from_Olgino https://themoscowtimes.com/news/st-petersburg-troll-factory-attacked-with-molotov-cocktails-55900 https://themoscowtimes.com/news/st-petersburg-troll-factory-... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-... https://www.inopressa.ru/article/03Jun2014/buzzfeed/web_rus.html https://www.inopressa.ru/article/03Jun2014/buzzfeed/web_rus.... https://globalvoices.org/2015/04/02/analyzing-kremlin-twitter-bots/ https://globalvoices.org/2015/04/02/analyzing-kremlin-twitte... > if you already wrote off anyone who disagrees as "delusional or paid shills" then you're too far gone to reason with. Literally nothing anybody ever says can make you think twice. Not true, but it would definitely take more than that hand-wavy uncertainty yarn you're trying to spin

seppin 9y ago
I honestly think HN is the target of some of these trolls as well.
- mistermann 9y ago
  A significant percentage of younger (as well as non-younger for that matter) people have practically no exposure to mainstream media, so naturally one should expect propaganda (from the various players) will be brought to online forums of all kinds.
  - seppin 9y ago
    I feel HN has been specifically targeted as a source of above-average discourse, therefore it must be comprised.
zigzigzag 9y ago
Both the NY Times and the Guardian seem to hate Russia and all things Russian. I constantly read things in those publications that are ludicrously biased or simply wrong. They don't count as credible sources to me anymore. And as was already pointed out, you stated that "Russia sponsors" but even the first article states that the alleged project is the work of one guy who apparently has money to burn - not the government.