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> I've heard that much (not all) of the aggregate gap (i.e., on the national level) goes away after controlling for those variables. The question you may ask h
by hannob 10y ago
> I've heard that much (not all) of the aggregate gap (i.e., on the national level) goes away after controlling for those variables.
The question you may ask here however is: Does it matter? I mean I agree that it matters from "getting the facts straight", but maybe not necessarily from the conclusions.
If the pay gap is due to less experience, less education etc., then you're seeing effects of earlier discrimination in society. Shouldn't it be the responsibility of the society to compensate for that?
- Caprinicus 10y agoWhat if men and women naturally have different priorities as far as what jobs they want to take and how much they want to work?
- coldtea 10y agoThat's blasphemy. You are only allowed to think that physiology and millions of years of different evolutionary developments are totally irrelevant, and that this is the year zero: all divergent cultural and historical choices between the sexes were only and solely the result of oppression and discrimination, and sexes only differ in having different reproductive organs.
- Afton 10y agoWhat if that same excuse has been used as far back as you choose to look for all sorts of discrimination? It's not that it can't possibly be right, but it's a hypothesis to be forced to, not to grab and promote above all others. And we just haven't been forced to it yet.
- jimmywanger 10y ago> If the pay gap is due to less experience, less education etc., then you're seeing effects of earlier discrimination in society. No, it can also be due to interests/innate biological differences. Women firefighters/professional athletes would be paid less than males, all other things considered, because women generally have less strength and athletic ability than men do.
- TheOtherHobbes 10y agoBy that logic women teachers and nurses should be paid more than men, because they're better with kids and with being caring. Perhaps there's a problem with this kind of generalisation. Can you see what it is?
- jimmywanger 10y agoIf there is a group of people who perform jobs better than another group, yes, they should be paid more. Last I checked, there's no peer reviewed studies about effectiveness/ability in nebulous characteristics such as "better with kids" and "caring". However, there are tests that measure your physical aptitude/upper body strength. Considering that physical standards are different between genders[0] why would they expect the same pay? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Physical_Fitness_Test#Standards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Physical_Fi...
- dingaling 10y ago> Women firefighters/professional athletes would be paid less than males Just a grammar note: the appropriate adjective in that clause is 'female', not 'women'. Invert the genders: 'men firefighters'. Most readers would raise an eyebrow at that phrasing.
- seattle_spring 10y agoIs it then Google's fault to fix society?