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It is far from hidden, bottom left says "skip" then the next screen lets you create a local account and even if you didn't see this you can simple go to setting

It is far from hidden, bottom left says "skip" then the next screen lets you create a local account and even if you didn't see this you can simple go to settings > account and change it to a local account with no issues at all. Just because people do not read everything on the screen doesn't mean it is "hidden"

Tepix 10y ago
They make it harder to find with every new version of the installer. I'd say they have reached a point where you can call it a dark pattern.
- yjftsjthsd-h 10y ago
  > you can call it a dark pattern. Exactly. Putting a button that advances the process in the lower left hand corner is Wrong in every UI convention... ever? Seriously, I've used a lot of historical and exotic operating systems and tool kits, and I'm not aware of anybody ever making something like that acceptable behavior.
  - vorticalbox 10y ago
    Never the less the button is still there and easy to see if you bother to look. You could argue that the left side is better to place it as most cultures read left to right
    - Sylos 10y ago
      No, you couldn't argue that. You'd have to overthrow the entirety of UI design since forever to be able to argue that. Not to mention that you should first read what you're responding to and then click on buttons, therefore even with the left-to-right logic, the button belongs on the right side.
RKearney 10y ago
I recall installing a fresh install of Windows. I was prompted with a login to Microsoft account screen. The only way to "skip" it was click the "I don't have a Microsoft account" link at the bottom (which isn't true, I DO have a Microsoft account, I just don't want to use it for this PC). That brings you to a "Create a new Microsoft account" screen, and at the bottom of that was a small text link that says "I don't want to create one now" (or similar). Considering I had to lie during the install by claiming I didn't have a Microsoft account just to get the option to proceed without one is pretty bad UX in my opinion.
- giancarlostoro 10y ago
  This is what I meant by they hide it in the setup process somewhere unclear. It really should be outlined as such: * Login * Create a new Microsoft Account * Use / Create a Local Account

Tepix 10y ago

They make it harder to find with every new version of the installer. I'd say they have reached a point where you can call it a dark pattern.

yjftsjthsd-h 10y ago
> you can call it a dark pattern. Exactly. Putting a button that advances the process in the lower left hand corner is Wrong in every UI convention... ever? Seriously, I've used a lot of historical and exotic operating systems and tool kits, and I'm not aware of anybody ever making something like that acceptable behavior.
- vorticalbox 10y ago
  Never the less the button is still there and easy to see if you bother to look. You could argue that the left side is better to place it as most cultures read left to right
  - Sylos 10y ago
    No, you couldn't argue that. You'd have to overthrow the entirety of UI design since forever to be able to argue that. Not to mention that you should first read what you're responding to and then click on buttons, therefore even with the left-to-right logic, the button belongs on the right side.

RKearney 10y ago

I recall installing a fresh install of Windows. I was prompted with a login to Microsoft account screen. The only way to "skip" it was click the "I don't have a Microsoft account" link at the bottom (which isn't true, I DO have a Microsoft account, I just don't want to use it for this PC). That brings you to a "Create a new Microsoft account" screen, and at the bottom of that was a small text link that says "I don't want to create one now" (or similar). Considering I had to lie during the install by claiming I didn't have a Microsoft account just to get the option to proceed without one is pretty bad UX in my opinion.

giancarlostoro 10y ago
This is what I meant by they hide it in the setup process somewhere unclear. It really should be outlined as such: * Login * Create a new Microsoft Account * Use / Create a Local Account