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Yeah the legality section just repeats what I said above...it's only a grey area in that case because of the configuration and usage of the premises. In this ca

by anjc 10y ago

Yeah the legality section just repeats what I said above...it's only a grey area in that case because of the configuration and usage of the premises. In this case the guy's house was used as a brothel by multiple prostitutes...illegal, those prostitutes solicited customers...illegal, if they have a manager...illegal, if they have a manager and they were paid...illegal... It's not a grey area at all. And paying for prostitutes is illegal full stop in NI and Ireland, and is illegal in the case that they have a pimp in Great Britain

foldr 10y ago
The legality section doesn’t repeat what you said above. You made the inaccurate assertion that paying for a prostitute is illegal in the relevant jurisdiction, which it is not. I have no idea why you’re bringing up Northern Ireland and Ireland now, as this event didn’t happen in those jurisdictions. We have no way of knowing that the prostitutes engaged in soliciting. “Soliciting” doesn’t just mean “finding someone to pay you for sex”, it has a specific meaning to do with advertising for sex in a public place. If the prostitutes met their clients by, e.g., chatting to guys online, then that would not count as soliciting. Similarly, we have no way of knowing that more that more than one woman actually had sex on the premises, or that the prostitutes have a pimp. So this is at worst a grey area in terms of legality. And it’s effectively straight-up legal, given that the police have made no attempt for decades to target this kind of prostitution via laws against pimping/soliciting/whatever, since it’s impossible for them to construct a prosecutable case.
- anjc 10y ago
  You said that it wasn't illegal to pay for prostitutes in the UK. NI is in the UK which is why I mentioned it. It's illegal to pay for prostitutes in NI full stop. And again, it IS illegal to pay prostitutes in the entire UK under certain circumstances (they have a pimp, they were trafficked, they're under duress). He said there were two prostitutes listed as guests, and that they advertised their services and rates online, which can be classed as solicitation.
  - foldr 10y ago
    Dude, I mentioned that NI was an exception way back in my original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14066425 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14066425 So you really don't need to point that out to me! >He said there were two prostitutes listed as guests, and that they advertised their services and rates online, which can be classed as solicitation. You have a kind of genius for spreading inaccurate information. Advertising yourself as a prostitute online is not illegal in Britain and is not classed as solicitation. To prove that a crime was committed, the police would have to show, at minimum, that both of the women actually had sex with a client in the same property. That is obviously not going to be possible.
    - anjc 10y ago
      > Dude, I mentioned that NI was an exception way back in my original post So you did, apologies

by anjc 10y ago

foldr 10y ago

The legality section doesn’t repeat what you said above. You made the inaccurate assertion that paying for a prostitute is illegal in the relevant jurisdiction, which it is not. I have no idea why you’re bringing up Northern Ireland and Ireland now, as this event didn’t happen in those jurisdictions. We have no way of knowing that the prostitutes engaged in soliciting. “Soliciting” doesn’t just mean “finding someone to pay you for sex”, it has a specific meaning to do with advertising for sex in a public place. If the prostitutes met their clients by, e.g., chatting to guys online, then that would not count as soliciting. Similarly, we have no way of knowing that more that more than one woman actually had sex on the premises, or that the prostitutes have a pimp. So this is at worst a grey area in terms of legality. And it’s effectively straight-up legal, given that the police have made no attempt for decades to target this kind of prostitution via laws against pimping/soliciting/whatever, since it’s impossible for them to construct a prosecutable case.

anjc 10y ago
You said that it wasn't illegal to pay for prostitutes in the UK. NI is in the UK which is why I mentioned it. It's illegal to pay for prostitutes in NI full stop. And again, it IS illegal to pay prostitutes in the entire UK under certain circumstances (they have a pimp, they were trafficked, they're under duress). He said there were two prostitutes listed as guests, and that they advertised their services and rates online, which can be classed as solicitation.
- foldr 10y ago
  Dude, I mentioned that NI was an exception way back in my original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14066425 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14066425 So you really don't need to point that out to me! >He said there were two prostitutes listed as guests, and that they advertised their services and rates online, which can be classed as solicitation. You have a kind of genius for spreading inaccurate information. Advertising yourself as a prostitute online is not illegal in Britain and is not classed as solicitation. To prove that a crime was committed, the police would have to show, at minimum, that both of the women actually had sex with a client in the same property. That is obviously not going to be possible.
  - anjc 10y ago
    > Dude, I mentioned that NI was an exception way back in my original post So you did, apologies