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You can always change the keyboard shortcuts to something else if you don't like Cmd-Shift-3 and Cmd-Shift-4.

by sjs 16y ago

nailer 16y ago
My prob with using a Mac for he last two years is instructions that use the alt and cmd keys (which are labelled on my MacBook keyboard as alt and cmd) as something else - one is called 'option', the other 'apple' but there is no key labelled either 'option' or 'apple' on the MacBook.
- culturestate 16y ago
  The option/apple keys are the alt key - until a couple years ago, there was no 'alt' and the option/apple key was called 'open apple option' by most people.
  - duskwuff 16y ago
    Wait, what? That's completely wrong. There are four modifiers on a Mac keyboard: command, option, control, and shift. (Fn isn't a real modifier, but it likes to hang out with them on laptop keyboards.) Option is also sometimes labeled "alt". Command usually has a four-leaf-clover symbol on it, and sometimes also has an Apple logo on it. You might also hear it called "open-Apple" by people who remember the Apple II, which had open-Apple and closed-Apple keys which mapped to the joystick buttons. All four of these modifiers have been on all of Apple's keyboards for over 20 years. (Control, the newest one on the scene, appeared on the Apple Extended Keyboard in 1987.)
  - nailer 16y ago
    Thanks, but it's not so much the correct answer to the question that concerns me, but why there needs to be a question at all. If the key is labelled alt, call it alt, if it wants to be called steve, then have the documentation refer to it as steve. It's a keyboard. It shouldn't be this complex.
    - sjs 16y ago
      I agree. Calling the command key apple is falling out of use though. Most people these days call it command or use the cloverleaf symbol, and it says command and has the cloverleaf symbol on it. People have started calling option alt and I'm not 100% sure why that's so, but they key says option and alt, so it shouldn't really be confusing (except that some people might think you hold Fn to make it alt instead of option, or something like that).
      - nailer 16y ago
        Glad to know I'm not alone. The Macbook keyboard only has the text 'alt'.
        sjs 16y ago
        Oh, must be a recent change. I don't like that they removed the text on the arrow keys as well. They used to say page up/down and home/end since fn-left is home, fn-right end, fn-up page up and fn-down page down. That's not obvious to switchers from any other OS. I get that they want to be all zen and remove unnecessary stuff but some of this stuff is necessary. Not good for users.

You can always change the keyboard shortcuts to something else if you don't like Cmd-Shift-3 and Cmd-Shift-4.

by sjs 16y ago

You can always change the keyboard shortcuts to something else if you don't like Cmd-Shift-3 and Cmd-Shift-4.

My prob with using a Mac for he last two years is instructions that use the alt and cmd keys (which are labelled on my MacBook keyboard as alt and cmd) as something else - one is called 'option', the other 'apple' but there is no key labelled either 'option' or 'apple' on the MacBook.

culturestate 16y ago
The option/apple keys are the alt key - until a couple years ago, there was no 'alt' and the option/apple key was called 'open apple option' by most people.
- duskwuff 16y ago
  Wait, what? That's completely wrong. There are four modifiers on a Mac keyboard: command, option, control, and shift. (Fn isn't a real modifier, but it likes to hang out with them on laptop keyboards.) Option is also sometimes labeled "alt". Command usually has a four-leaf-clover symbol on it, and sometimes also has an Apple logo on it. You might also hear it called "open-Apple" by people who remember the Apple II, which had open-Apple and closed-Apple keys which mapped to the joystick buttons. All four of these modifiers have been on all of Apple's keyboards for over 20 years. (Control, the newest one on the scene, appeared on the Apple Extended Keyboard in 1987.)
- nailer 16y ago
  Thanks, but it's not so much the correct answer to the question that concerns me, but why there needs to be a question at all. If the key is labelled alt, call it alt, if it wants to be called steve, then have the documentation refer to it as steve. It's a keyboard. It shouldn't be this complex.
  - sjs 16y ago
    I agree. Calling the command key apple is falling out of use though. Most people these days call it command or use the cloverleaf symbol, and it says command and has the cloverleaf symbol on it. People have started calling option alt and I'm not 100% sure why that's so, but they key says option and alt, so it shouldn't really be confusing (except that some people might think you hold Fn to make it alt instead of option, or something like that).
    - nailer 16y ago
      Glad to know I'm not alone. The Macbook keyboard only has the text 'alt'.
      - sjs 16y ago
        Oh, must be a recent change. I don't like that they removed the text on the arrow keys as well. They used to say page up/down and home/end since fn-left is home, fn-right end, fn-up page up and fn-down page down. That's not obvious to switchers from any other OS. I get that they want to be all zen and remove unnecessary stuff but some of this stuff is necessary. Not good for users.