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I treat URLs like any other document: I click+drag the favicon off the address bar and drop it in the target folder in explorer (file browser in Windows), which

by AceyMan 10y ago

I treat URLs like any other document: I click+drag the favicon off the address bar and drop it in the target folder in explorer (file browser in Windows), which creates a dot-url shortcut. Why keep resources in a unique silo? You wouldn't keep all your PDFs/Word/rtf/&c in a "<ext> manager app", so why do URLs have to be kept in one? Also, this way they all get backed up since I keep all work docs on my network drive. I'm surprised no one else follows this pattern, but I've never seen anyone else use it, nor have I won over any converts via its sheer awesome factor <shrug>. FYI, works in FF and Chrome, but not Opera. (Bummer, because I like Opera generally, and it's my default Android browser.)

kakarot 10y ago
The problem is that major browsers don't offer a way to offer a view into this data model. The integration is important for an efficient workflow.
- AceyMan 10y ago
  Hmm, I'm not sure what the anti-pattern you see is. I just go to the folder that represents the topic (typically /Vendors/Mgfr/Product/) and there along with spec sheets, user guides, etc., are the URLs I've saved. Then I {wait for it} open a blank tab (ctrl+t) and drag the URL 'file' back and drop it on the blank tab -- Presto, there's the page. Considering I probably find four or five worthwhile web pages for every hardware purchase, every semi-tricky JIRA problem, every new tech to master ... that'd just be unwieldy in a bookmarks app. And this way it's detached from any given browser. It's not super portable but I suppose I could start saving stuff in OneDrive (forBiz) or the like and they'd be more accessible from various networks (home/work/travel/what-have-you), but so far it's done the job for me.
  - kakarot 10y ago
    That is quite a few more steps than just clicking a drop down folder on my bookmarks bar or using the omnibar/awesome bar to quickly access previously visited pages. Prohibitively more steps for casual internet users and needlessly more steps for a power user like me who can just further optimize the steps I find myself repeating often. It's not that maintaining a database of useful links in a filesystem structure is an antipattern, I just find it too limited and hierarchical for most purposes. Knowledge databases like Zotero[0], or mindmapping software like Freemind[1] are good for when I need to build link databases for specific topics and projects, and a combination of web scraping and offline data consolidation and organization provided by such software has so far been the best approach for me. If I find myself visiting a static page more than 2 or 3 times, it really makes no sense for me not to just archive the page on my hard drive in case it later becomes inaccessible and then tag it for easy searching. [0] https://www.zotero.org/ https://www.zotero.org/ [1] http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
- a3n 10y ago
  Firefox and Chrome both will display a local directory. In fact I exploit that for my no-software written personal wiki, github.com/a3n/miki. I bookmark the directory of the top of my wiki, and drill down into directories to get at my pages, except the pages I've bookmarked. I see no reason why a browser couldn't do that with URLs in local directories. EDIT: Unfortunately I don't think the first part, drag/drop from browser tab to file manager folder, works in Linux. Tried it with nemo, dolphin and nautilus. But viewing and clicking on directories and contents from the browser works fine. EDIT EDIT: Dragging a tab didn't work for me. But dragging the icon from the address bar worked fine. Except in Dolphin, which gave me something weird. nemo and nautilus were good. And the "files" clicked in the file manager opened in the browser. And of course, opening them from the browser directly also works.
  - kakarot 10y ago
    That's a pretty neat use-case, thanks for sharing. I could see it being useful for my own personal knowledge database as well. Unfortunately it doesn't help with my regular browsing workflow, which revolves around a bookmark bar filled with textless favicons arranged by color.
mcnaughtonrules 10y ago
Makes alot of sense

by AceyMan 10y ago

kakarot 10y ago

The problem is that major browsers don't offer a way to offer a view into this data model. The integration is important for an efficient workflow.

AceyMan 10y ago
Hmm, I'm not sure what the anti-pattern you see is. I just go to the folder that represents the topic (typically /Vendors/Mgfr/Product/) and there along with spec sheets, user guides, etc., are the URLs I've saved. Then I {wait for it} open a blank tab (ctrl+t) and drag the URL 'file' back and drop it on the blank tab -- Presto, there's the page. Considering I probably find four or five worthwhile web pages for every hardware purchase, every semi-tricky JIRA problem, every new tech to master ... that'd just be unwieldy in a bookmarks app. And this way it's detached from any given browser. It's not super portable but I suppose I could start saving stuff in OneDrive (forBiz) or the like and they'd be more accessible from various networks (home/work/travel/what-have-you), but so far it's done the job for me.
- kakarot 10y ago
  That is quite a few more steps than just clicking a drop down folder on my bookmarks bar or using the omnibar/awesome bar to quickly access previously visited pages. Prohibitively more steps for casual internet users and needlessly more steps for a power user like me who can just further optimize the steps I find myself repeating often. It's not that maintaining a database of useful links in a filesystem structure is an antipattern, I just find it too limited and hierarchical for most purposes. Knowledge databases like Zotero[0], or mindmapping software like Freemind[1] are good for when I need to build link databases for specific topics and projects, and a combination of web scraping and offline data consolidation and organization provided by such software has so far been the best approach for me. If I find myself visiting a static page more than 2 or 3 times, it really makes no sense for me not to just archive the page on my hard drive in case it later becomes inaccessible and then tag it for easy searching. [0] https://www.zotero.org/ https://www.zotero.org/ [1] http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page http://freemind.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
a3n 10y ago
Firefox and Chrome both will display a local directory. In fact I exploit that for my no-software written personal wiki, github.com/a3n/miki. I bookmark the directory of the top of my wiki, and drill down into directories to get at my pages, except the pages I've bookmarked. I see no reason why a browser couldn't do that with URLs in local directories. EDIT: Unfortunately I don't think the first part, drag/drop from browser tab to file manager folder, works in Linux. Tried it with nemo, dolphin and nautilus. But viewing and clicking on directories and contents from the browser works fine. EDIT EDIT: Dragging a tab didn't work for me. But dragging the icon from the address bar worked fine. Except in Dolphin, which gave me something weird. nemo and nautilus were good. And the "files" clicked in the file manager opened in the browser. And of course, opening them from the browser directly also works.
- kakarot 10y ago
  That's a pretty neat use-case, thanks for sharing. I could see it being useful for my own personal knowledge database as well. Unfortunately it doesn't help with my regular browsing workflow, which revolves around a bookmark bar filled with textless favicons arranged by color.

mcnaughtonrules 10y ago

Makes alot of sense