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You are incorrect. According to the article, according to DoL, the DoL has found etc. There is a big difference, and my original statement is the correct one as

You are incorrect. According to the article, according to DoL, the DoL has found etc. There is a big difference, and my original statement is the correct one assuming that the Guardian is being truthful (which they probably are). If the DoL had provided evidence then the Guardian themselves would state that the DoL has found this evidence. You can't go to court and tell the judge and/or jury, "I found such-and-such evidence which proves that Google discriminates!", you have to actually provide that evidence.

rpedela 10y ago
They aren't going to provide evidence publicly for an ongoing investigation and lawsuit. That doesn't mean they don't have evidence.
YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago
Sorry you're being downvoted. Your original comment was about The Guardian's coverage of the DOL's suit and I think you were being a little unfair, because The Guardian did a good job of explaining what the DoL aske for, and why. The article title is to the point - it sayst that the DoL is accusing Google of discriminating over gender. That's what's happened, so what else could they have reported?
YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago
On a separate note, could we have a web-rule, like Godwin's Law, to address a certain tendency to comment on the logic of peoples' comments, in the abstract? Sometimes I feel like I'm in the Stoa debating Socrates, not on a web board exchanging opinions with some dude/s/s, the way I'm told my "argument is illogical" or my "statement is incorrect" etc. Here, I'll make a stab at it myself: YeGoblynQueenne's Law of Debugging Arguments: as the length of an internet conversation approaches infinity, the probability that someone will mention the words "argument" and "incorrect" (or their cognates) in the same comment tends to become 1.0.
- belovedeagle 10y ago
  I dunno; if you think that this is mere "exchange of opinions" where facts don't matter and people can just make shit up (I'm not saying you are, but that's the natural conclusion of such an attitude) then it's not surprising if you're involved in a lot of conversations in which the counterparty uses the words "argument" and "incorrect". Kind of like if I notice a lot of people I'm talking to are using the words "where" and "your" and "pants" in close proximity, I'm going to start wondering if I maybe forgot to do something this morning. It's ridiculous to come up with a theory that maybe people are just weird and like talking about pants.
  - idunnodoyou 9y ago
    As I obviously will not be trolling you anytime soon bc I simply have zero fcks to give about where your pants might be.
  - idunnodoyou 9y ago
    Yep...exactly. All in due time, ehhh? So, after familiarizing one's self with the dialog then apparently one must direct their target audience accordingly. See how easy that is? Also, I don't think this is "merely an exchange of opinions". I "think" this has turned into a hate campaign between both sides of the debate and perhaps it would be more beneficial if you all BOTH stuck to the facts but obviously neither side is capable of doing so... this is a perfect example right here...this online hate campaign against me is futile to say the least. I mean what have you internet warriors actually accomplished and/or how has it been beneficial to your anti-bsl campaign? NADA...ZIP...ZILCH. What have you learned exactly about me that has been such a "hush hush secret"? Please do share... What conspiracy theory do you all have for me now, huh? Let me make myself very clear bc apparently you all need things spelled out for you. I post MY personal opinion on my own PERSONAL timeline of which I have zero 000 friends or acquaintances involved in either side of this issue. It is YOU people who seek out my posts and monitor my timeline 24/7. I mean...how incredibly pathetic??? If you don't like what I have to say on this issue it's really a simple fix...block my account or maybe just stop trolling me? Easy...peezy. On Fri, Apr 14, 2017, 7:00 PM Google Alerts <googlealerts-noreply@google.com> wrote: Google "I Dunno" WEB I dunno; if you think that this is mere "exchange of opinions" Hacker News I dunno; if you think that this is mere "exchange of opinions" where facts don't matter and people can just make shit up (I'm not saying you are, but ... Google Plus Facebook Twitter Flag as irrelevant See more results | Edit this alert You have received this email because you have subscribed to Google Alerts. View all your alerts Send Feedback

rpedela 10y ago

They aren't going to provide evidence publicly for an ongoing investigation and lawsuit. That doesn't mean they don't have evidence.

YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago

Sorry you're being downvoted. Your original comment was about The Guardian's coverage of the DOL's suit and I think you were being a little unfair, because The Guardian did a good job of explaining what the DoL aske for, and why. The article title is to the point - it sayst that the DoL is accusing Google of discriminating over gender. That's what's happened, so what else could they have reported?

YeGoblynQueenne 10y ago

On a separate note, could we have a web-rule, like Godwin's Law, to address a certain tendency to comment on the logic of peoples' comments, in the abstract? Sometimes I feel like I'm in the Stoa debating Socrates, not on a web board exchanging opinions with some dude/s/s, the way I'm told my "argument is illogical" or my "statement is incorrect" etc. Here, I'll make a stab at it myself: YeGoblynQueenne's Law of Debugging Arguments: as the length of an internet conversation approaches infinity, the probability that someone will mention the words "argument" and "incorrect" (or their cognates) in the same comment tends to become 1.0.

belovedeagle 10y ago
I dunno; if you think that this is mere "exchange of opinions" where facts don't matter and people can just make shit up (I'm not saying you are, but that's the natural conclusion of such an attitude) then it's not surprising if you're involved in a lot of conversations in which the counterparty uses the words "argument" and "incorrect". Kind of like if I notice a lot of people I'm talking to are using the words "where" and "your" and "pants" in close proximity, I'm going to start wondering if I maybe forgot to do something this morning. It's ridiculous to come up with a theory that maybe people are just weird and like talking about pants.
- idunnodoyou 9y ago
  As I obviously will not be trolling you anytime soon bc I simply have zero fcks to give about where your pants might be.
- idunnodoyou 9y ago
  Yep...exactly. All in due time, ehhh? So, after familiarizing one's self with the dialog then apparently one must direct their target audience accordingly. See how easy that is? Also, I don't think this is "merely an exchange of opinions". I "think" this has turned into a hate campaign between both sides of the debate and perhaps it would be more beneficial if you all BOTH stuck to the facts but obviously neither side is capable of doing so... this is a perfect example right here...this online hate campaign against me is futile to say the least. I mean what have you internet warriors actually accomplished and/or how has it been beneficial to your anti-bsl campaign? NADA...ZIP...ZILCH. What have you learned exactly about me that has been such a "hush hush secret"? Please do share... What conspiracy theory do you all have for me now, huh? Let me make myself very clear bc apparently you all need things spelled out for you. I post MY personal opinion on my own PERSONAL timeline of which I have zero 000 friends or acquaintances involved in either side of this issue. It is YOU people who seek out my posts and monitor my timeline 24/7. I mean...how incredibly pathetic??? If you don't like what I have to say on this issue it's really a simple fix...block my account or maybe just stop trolling me? Easy...peezy. On Fri, Apr 14, 2017, 7:00 PM Google Alerts <googlealerts-noreply@google.com> wrote: Google "I Dunno" WEB I dunno; if you think that this is mere "exchange of opinions" Hacker News I dunno; if you think that this is mere "exchange of opinions" where facts don't matter and people can just make shit up (I'm not saying you are, but ... Google Plus Facebook Twitter Flag as irrelevant See more results | Edit this alert You have received this email because you have subscribed to Google Alerts. View all your alerts Send Feedback