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If you go to the developer page (here http://developer.apple.com/safaridemos/ http://developer.apple.com/safaridemos/ ) you can attempt to run the demos in any

If you go to the developer page (here http://developer.apple.com/safaridemos/ http://developer.apple.com/safaridemos/ ) you can attempt to run the demos in any browser you fancy. On the consumer accessible page Apple are requiring Safari because they can guarantee that the demos will work and they can guarantee they will have reasonable performance. And that's what's important. That's an advocacy page, a PR thing, not "look at this cool code we wrote". Presentation is everything. In other words, different goals - different implementations.

wanderr 16y ago
Odd, when I go there in Firefox I can get to the pages but if I click View Demo on any of them (well, I tried the first 3) it still yells at me and tells me that I need Safari.
- robak 16y ago
  guys, you sound crazy. Honstly. Why not to stick to Flash/Flex - it at least meets a definition of standard. What type of the standard it is when it works differently on every browser and then doesn't work at all at some? This is crazy. Who has time for this?
- pavs 16y ago
  Chrome Dev 6, all of the demo, except number 5, works.
  - wanderr 16y ago
    So they'll let you try to run them if you have a webkit based browser but that's it? Can anyone confirm that any non-webkit based browsers work?
    - technomancy 16y ago
      Just tried three gecko-based browsers; none work.
elblanco 16y ago
> On the consumer accessible page Apple are requiring Safari because they can guarantee that the demos will work and they can guarantee they will have reasonable performance. I'm sorry, how is that supporting standard again? I'm not illuminated yet.
zwetan 16y ago
and that's bullcrap the really important part of html5 at the end of the day is for CONSUMER, not developers. Here Apple doing exactly what dumb people did when they started the browsers war 10 years ago "this site is best viewed with X", which later degenerated to "if you don't have browser X, go f*ck off" (you know wars ... people pick a side). A browser is not here to guarantee an experience, it's here to guarantee you to browse content, and wether this browser support whatever version of HTML, this browser should not be blocked in any arbitrary way because the HTML should gracefully degrade, yeah even with Lynx on a command line. http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/abfaq.html http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/abfaq.html that's what people don't get about HTML5 and the article make a good illustration of it.

wanderr 16y ago

Odd, when I go there in Firefox I can get to the pages but if I click View Demo on any of them (well, I tried the first 3) it still yells at me and tells me that I need Safari.

robak 16y ago
guys, you sound crazy. Honstly. Why not to stick to Flash/Flex - it at least meets a definition of standard. What type of the standard it is when it works differently on every browser and then doesn't work at all at some? This is crazy. Who has time for this?
pavs 16y ago
Chrome Dev 6, all of the demo, except number 5, works.
- wanderr 16y ago
  So they'll let you try to run them if you have a webkit based browser but that's it? Can anyone confirm that any non-webkit based browsers work?
  - technomancy 16y ago
    Just tried three gecko-based browsers; none work.

elblanco 16y ago

> On the consumer accessible page Apple are requiring Safari because they can guarantee that the demos will work and they can guarantee they will have reasonable performance. I'm sorry, how is that supporting standard again? I'm not illuminated yet.

zwetan 16y ago

and that's bullcrap the really important part of html5 at the end of the day is for CONSUMER, not developers. Here Apple doing exactly what dumb people did when they started the browsers war 10 years ago "this site is best viewed with X", which later degenerated to "if you don't have browser X, go f*ck off" (you know wars ... people pick a side). A browser is not here to guarantee an experience, it's here to guarantee you to browse content, and wether this browser support whatever version of HTML, this browser should not be blocked in any arbitrary way because the HTML should gracefully degrade, yeah even with Lynx on a command line. http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/abfaq.html http://www.anybrowser.org/campaign/abfaq.html that's what people don't get about HTML5 and the article make a good illustration of it.