> You can only hurt yourself by giving a number. That's far too big of a generalization and I think it's easier to talk about specific scenarios. The parent co

> You can only hurt yourself by giving a number. That's far too big of a generalization and I think it's easier to talk about specific scenarios. The parent comment alluded to a quite common counterexample: 1. salary range for position is 100k-150k 2. candidate is first to talk and names anywhere from $130k to $170k 3. candidate gets talked down a bit, e.g. 10% It seems to me the candidate will still end up higher than if the company is first to talk and names $100k!