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"Uber denies Waymo theft claims on grounds it never used custom LiDAR" "Uber admitted in court filings today that it still uses commercially-available LiDAR sy
by cobookman 10y ago
"Uber denies Waymo theft claims on grounds it never used custom LiDAR"
"Uber admitted in court filings today that it still uses commercially-available LiDAR systems in its self-driving vehicles because its in-house technology isn’t ready for the road."
Am I reading this right. Uber is saying that they shouldn't be sued as they haven't used the stolen information in their self driving cars on the road. However they are not saying if they have used stolen information to make their own lidar units that are currently in development.
I'm assuming they are doing this so that the injunction only applies to their custom lidar tech.
- inverse_pi 10y agoNo, they're also claiming that their LiDAR is "fundamentally different" than Waymo's.
- wavefunction 10y agoHow would Uber know they are different implementations unless they knew what Google's implementation consists of?
- monocasa 10y agoNot defending Uber here (it's pretty obvious that they fucked up big time here), but in these cases it's common to allow counsel (and counsel only) to look at both companies' IP as part of the discovery process. Counsel then giving access to information they found in that process would be grounds for pretty immediate disbarring.
- tmh79 10y agoas I understand it, some of the details of google's implementation came out through discovery and are available to a teeny tiny team of lawyers of uber (maybe even just one lawyer), but not the engineers. This is standard legal procedure.