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>I read the article and they do not imply any connection to PRISM. These leaks attempt to piggy back off of the snowden media frenzy > Anyway, why would you b

>I read the article and they do not imply any connection to PRISM. These leaks attempt to piggy back off of the snowden media frenzy > Anyway, why would you be fine with such tools being used on non-US targets? Would you not be outraged if an equivalent tool was used on US targets by a non-US government? It is the duty of each government to look after the well being of its people with the resources it has, up to and including spying. Spying has gone on since the dawn of civilization. My opinion extends to foreign governments attempting to spy on the US. Does it help the human race as a whole? No, but that's a much bigger philosophical debate.

jessaustin 10y ago
The activities of CIA are not and have not ever been good for we "people" of USA. Sometimes if one squints hard enough, it seems that perhaps they have been intended to be for our good, but usually that's not even the case.
- John23832 10y ago
  You opinions about the CIA's actions are just that. I have negative opinions about the CIA's actions in many instances as well. Their possession of these types of tools however, clearly falls within their official stated goal, the standards we should judge them by.
  - jessaustin 10y ago
    It's interesting that 50-USC-46 doesn't seem to actually "officially state" any goal for the agency. That seems too glaring an oversight to be unintentional, so your appeal to such standards seems unfounded. I suggest that by any reasonable standard, CIA should have been shuttered decades ago. Even the tools seen here are indicted elsewhere in this thread by a knowledgeable person as "clownshoes".
    - John23832 10y ago
      I don't have time to read the entire law regarding the CIA, so I'll take your word on that, but from their website: The function of the Central Intelligence Agency is to assist the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency in carrying out the responsibilities outlined above. To accomplish its mission, the CIA engages in research, development, and deployment of high-leverage technology for intelligence purposes. As a separate agency, CIA serves as an independent source of analysis on topics of concern and also works closely with the other organizations in the Intelligence Community to ensure that the intelligence consumer—whether Washington policymaker or battlefield commander—receives the best intelligence possible. Though I will agree with you that this is just a statement on their website, not law. >That seems too glaring an oversight to be unintentional, so your appeal to such standards seems unfounded. I suggest that by any reasonable standard, CIA should have been shuttered decades ago. Even the tools seen here are indicted elsewhere in this thread by a knowledgeable person as "clownshoes". Speculation and opinions are just that, speculations and opinions.
      - jessaustin 10y ago
        Speculation and opinions are just that, speculations and opinions. Hilarious! We're discussing CIA. The whole point is that they don't submit to the scrutiny of their employers. "You don't know what we're doing, so we could be doing the right thing!"

jessaustin 10y ago

The activities of CIA are not and have not ever been good for we "people" of USA. Sometimes if one squints hard enough, it seems that perhaps they have been intended to be for our good, but usually that's not even the case.

John23832 10y ago
You opinions about the CIA's actions are just that. I have negative opinions about the CIA's actions in many instances as well. Their possession of these types of tools however, clearly falls within their official stated goal, the standards we should judge them by.
- jessaustin 10y ago
  It's interesting that 50-USC-46 doesn't seem to actually "officially state" any goal for the agency. That seems too glaring an oversight to be unintentional, so your appeal to such standards seems unfounded. I suggest that by any reasonable standard, CIA should have been shuttered decades ago. Even the tools seen here are indicted elsewhere in this thread by a knowledgeable person as "clownshoes".
  - John23832 10y ago
    I don't have time to read the entire law regarding the CIA, so I'll take your word on that, but from their website: The function of the Central Intelligence Agency is to assist the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency in carrying out the responsibilities outlined above. To accomplish its mission, the CIA engages in research, development, and deployment of high-leverage technology for intelligence purposes. As a separate agency, CIA serves as an independent source of analysis on topics of concern and also works closely with the other organizations in the Intelligence Community to ensure that the intelligence consumer—whether Washington policymaker or battlefield commander—receives the best intelligence possible. Though I will agree with you that this is just a statement on their website, not law. >That seems too glaring an oversight to be unintentional, so your appeal to such standards seems unfounded. I suggest that by any reasonable standard, CIA should have been shuttered decades ago. Even the tools seen here are indicted elsewhere in this thread by a knowledgeable person as "clownshoes". Speculation and opinions are just that, speculations and opinions.
    - jessaustin 10y ago
      Speculation and opinions are just that, speculations and opinions. Hilarious! We're discussing CIA. The whole point is that they don't submit to the scrutiny of their employers. "You don't know what we're doing, so we could be doing the right thing!"