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The worst part is that this is hyper-targeted and by request, which is the worst possible version of NSA targeting.
by H4CK3RM4N 10y ago
The worst part is that this is hyper-targeted and by request, which is the worst possible version of NSA targeting.
- MikusR 10y agoThe worst part is that the user has to intentionally enable Full diagnostics for this to happen.
- Tepix 10y agoIsn't enabled by default and the user has to intentionally disable it? I installed Windows 10 on a computer last week and every single privacy option was set to the more invasive default. I had to change them all.
- EasyTiger_ 10y agoCorrect. Also they have a tendency to revert settings to those which benefit MS more - they claim 'bugs' but their bugs always seem to benefit themselves.
- brianwawok 10y agoYes this is why I dumped win 10. I can't turn off defender. I have to registry hack to shut it down, then it comes back in a week. Nope. I don't care how much MS pretends to change. They are still scum.
- lightbyte 10y agoWhy would you want to turn off defender? It's the best anti-virus you can get on W10.
- ycombinete 10y agoWhat do you base this claim on?
- brianwawok 10y ago* Have used a computer for 18+ years, never gotten a Virus * Defender slows my compile time down by a good 30-50% * No interest in providing contents of my files to Microsoft.
- davidgrenier 10y agoTo quote whoever working on Chrome security: "The best of a bad bunch". Antivirus are terrible pieces of software that prevents triviality you shouldn't have downloaded in the first place.
- MikusR 10y agoFrom the article: "Basic is the default setting, though members of the Windows 10 Insider Program have their systems set to Full." Edit: sorry quoted wrong article.
- whyoh 10y agoI just did a fresh install of the latest stable version (1703, no insider build). Full is the default. Although the change from previous versions is that you get the "Full-Basic" switch on the initial setup screen. edit: it's the same setup screen that is shown in the article (The Register). I guess you must have been reading some other article.
- ebbv 10y agoIt's enabled by default and it will be re-enabled by patches even if you turn it off. But nice try attempting to blame the user for Microsoft being awful. Even if someone chose to enable telemetry, it is not reasonable to expect them to predict this level of invasive access.
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- davidgrenier 10y agoCould someone elaborate or direct me to information regarding the back-porting of telemetry to windows 7? I permanently have this remove_crw.cmd to uninstall some windows 7 update on my desktop and I'm unclear whether it could be outdated.
- hedora 10y agoI looked into this, came to the conclusion that I was screwed, then switched back to Linux. There are some github projects and commercial programs from various anti-virus companies that try to turn off the backported telemetry, but Microsoft repeatedly thwarted such efforts over the last few years. You might be safe from Microsoft data slurps if you run Windows XP, but it doesn't get security updates any more. Therefore, you probably shouldn't give it network access. At that point, you may as well run air-gapped windows 10.