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In the comments the author says, it's not happening. "Wayland network transparency will likely be handled at the compositor level, and not in libwayland, so th

• krylon 10y ago
  As a regular end user, I don't care where this is handled, as long as it is handled. Network transparency is, to me, the killer feature of X11. I am aware that security on X11 is atrocious at best and that a replacement is needed, but any successor without network transparency is inacceptable to me. Worse, actually, there are a number of other Unix systems (and even non-Unix systems) around that speak X11. In fact, the killer feature of X11 is cross platform network transparency. Unless other platforms adopt Wayland or a common wire protocol, that is lost, too.
  • agumonkey 10y ago
    Do you often rely on X11 network transparency ? I love the idea but I rarely see it mentionned (maybe because people are too happy using it). On the other hand many many people talk about VNC like protocols (be it on Windows or other OSes)
    • kefka 10y ago
      I actually do, yes. All of my machines at home and online are all Linux machines, one of. Some of them have graphical UIs for various reasons. With that, all I need do is include the -X forward in my ssh config, and I can run X apps and display locally. Right now, I have 3 programs running on remote machines. I don't have to care where they are... because they're right here on my desktop. It just works. And Wayland/Mir/whatever doesn't. That's trading security problems for a purely worse experience.
      • leni536 10y ago
        Last time I tried Weston it had an rdp backend implemented.
        • ackalker 10y ago
          This is about forwarding individual remote applications, not entire desktops.
          • krylon 10y ago
            I think RDP can do that, too. At least on Windows there is something called RemoteApp (or something like that) that does just that. (I have never used it, though!)
            • teh_klev 10y ago
              This is the skinny on RemoteApp. You need to be running Windows Server 2008 or later as the host machine: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753844(WS.10).aspx https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc753844(WS.10).... Citrix have a similar thing called XenApp: https://www.citrix.com/products/xenapp-xendesktop/ https://www.citrix.com/products/xenapp-xendesktop/
    • qbrass 10y ago
      I'd use it a lot more if I was confident that once I finally got it to work over SSH, that I didn't just compromise SSH on both computers.
    • reacweb 10y ago
      My working environment is windows+exceed+putty. All my developments are performed on remote linux box. This means that 90% of my X11 usage is via network transparency. On slow connections, I use vncviewer and x11vnc that I dont bother to launch locally.
    • krylon 10y ago
      At home, I have several machines running Linux/*BSD, and I regularly display windows on my Desktop (currently a Mac Mini running XQuartz). VNC is nice, but X11 has the ability to seamlessly display single windows on another machine. VNC does not do that, at least as far as I know.