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1) Apple makes (or at least used to make) good hardware -- I'm typing this on a 2008 Mac Pro that is still going great for me. 2) I don't want to bother with t

by fjarlq 10y ago

1) Apple makes (or at least used to make) good hardware -- I'm typing this on a 2008 Mac Pro that is still going great for me. 2) I don't want to bother with these kinds of issues every time Apple puts out a point release: https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/macos-10-12-4-update.217169/ https://www.tonymacx86.com/threads/macos-10-12-4-update.2171... I don't "need" Apple to produce a Mac Pro, but I'd certainly like them to, if it's a good box.

old-gregg 10y ago
Sorry I wasn't being clear. I did not want to imply that Hackintosh situation should remain the same, I was thinking more along the lines of Apple publishing and maintaining a list of compatible devices with guaranteed long-term OSX support and call it a day. There are plenty of fantastic motherboards, GPUs, power supplies and quiet and good looking cases to choose from, I only need a guarantee of future OSX support.
- fjarlq 10y ago
  Ah, yeah, good question: why does Apple need to be the one to produce Mac Pro? I could only speculate. Wouldn't it cut significantly into their iMac and MacBook sales if they opened things up like that?
  - timc3 10y ago
    Typically it introduces a support and development burden, product fragmentation and a weaker brand. They tried it before (I had one of the Mac clones, it was just ok). It would eat into their sales but the other side effects are worse, and they would have to look into creating a channel for being able to make money from MacOS. There is a reason for a number of these boutique Windows workstation manufacturers as there value add is to provide a supported product out of known good tested configurations, because for someone that just wants a machine that works it’s still some effort and Microsoft still gets money for the Windows license.
  - tjriley82 10y ago
    Yes, it would. Apple experiemented with this in the mid 90s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_clone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_clone it didn't really work out.

by fjarlq 10y ago

old-gregg 10y ago

Sorry I wasn't being clear. I did not want to imply that Hackintosh situation should remain the same, I was thinking more along the lines of Apple publishing and maintaining a list of compatible devices with guaranteed long-term OSX support and call it a day. There are plenty of fantastic motherboards, GPUs, power supplies and quiet and good looking cases to choose from, I only need a guarantee of future OSX support.

fjarlq 10y ago
Ah, yeah, good question: why does Apple need to be the one to produce Mac Pro? I could only speculate. Wouldn't it cut significantly into their iMac and MacBook sales if they opened things up like that?
- timc3 10y ago
  Typically it introduces a support and development burden, product fragmentation and a weaker brand. They tried it before (I had one of the Mac clones, it was just ok). It would eat into their sales but the other side effects are worse, and they would have to look into creating a channel for being able to make money from MacOS. There is a reason for a number of these boutique Windows workstation manufacturers as there value add is to provide a supported product out of known good tested configurations, because for someone that just wants a machine that works it’s still some effort and Microsoft still gets money for the Windows license.
- tjriley82 10y ago
  Yes, it would. Apple experiemented with this in the mid 90s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_clone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_clone it didn't really work out.