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"Stop being so arrogant! You need people!", that would be one thing I would tell my past self, right after I smacked him upside the head. Be humble, trust win,

by pcunite 10y ago

"Stop being so arrogant! You need people!", that would be one thing I would tell my past self, right after I smacked him upside the head. Be humble, trust win, trust lose, trust again. Adapt to the market, don't think it'll adapt to you! Also, the real meaning of life is to find your creator, not make millions of dollars. When they bury your sad fat rear end in the ground, all you've made goes to someone else. The afterlife is a part of life. Read Acts 2:38.

elorm 10y ago
I don't know why you're being downvoted. Maybe it's cause of the Christian bit, but it's totally true. The real meaning of life is to find your purpose, so that you don't die meaninglessly
- lordCarbonFiber 10y ago
  With all respect possible, that's a terrible thing to be telling people. There is no creator, there is no "meaningful death", and, most importantly, that's 100% ok. Life is far too beautiful to immediately discount it in favor of invisible sky-grandpas and metaphysical meaning. A person's purpose is the sum of their experiences not anything more or anything less.
  - trcollinson 10y ago
    Telling people you have all respect possible for their position and then knocking down their comment in this way, I argue, is a fallacy. Both the parent comment to yours and the grandparent comment to yours make a philosophical argument about their own experience and how it made them feel and what they believe are important to their life. The grandparent comment literally says: "Also, the real meaning of life is to find your creator, not make millions of dollars. When they bury your sad fat rear end in the ground, all you've made goes to someone else. The afterlife is a part of life. Read Acts 2:38." Allow me to break this down philosophically from a few points of view. "Also, the real meaning of life is to find your creator, not make millions of dollars." -- Whether you believe your creator is a "invisible sky-grandpa", a set of entirely random events that, given enough time post singularity in a statistical manner, created the perfect set of circumstances to create a small blue ball next to a rather meaningless little helium creating furnace, or an all knowing pasta based creator who's noodle-y appendages may touch you in soul changing ways, philosophically speaking is this sentence not true? I would argue regardless of whether you have an all knowing creator or a random set of events, this sentence stands true. "When they bury your sad fat rear end in the ground, all you've made goes to someone else." -- There is no argument here. When you die, regardless of your beliefs, all you have made seemingly does to someone else. "The afterlife is a part of life." -- This certainly means different things to a person depending on whether they believe in an all knowing creator or a random set of occurrences. Psychologically and philosophically, a part of the human condition is that coming to terms with the inevitability of your own mortality is always and certainly a part of life. "Read Acts 2:38." -- This one cannot be argued as anything other than religious. It's definitely a philosophical passage on what a person should do in their life and what the reward of doing a simple act will be. You can discount it if you wish. I see no harm in it. Your parent comment basically had one sentence of meaning. It was: "The real meaning of life is to find your purpose, so that you don't die meaninglessly". I understand you think this is a "terrible thing to be telling people". But again, philosophically what is the harm in this sentence that makes it so terrible? It seems to me that you and the parent comment are arguing the same exact point. He says "the real meaning of life is to find your purpose" and then goes on to explain that in finding your purpose you don't die meaningless. You argue that "a person's purpose is the sum of their experience." If the sum of their experience is less than another persons does this balanced equation make their life's purpose less meaningful? If so then you have argued the same as the parent comment. If the sum of a persons experience is irrelevant in comparison to everyone else's then I would suggest that it would seem the sum of their experiences is not a person's purpose after all. Deep philosophical points indeed. Nevertheless, I don't believe you have shown why these comments are terrible things to tell people. These are philosophical arguments about the human condition. Their argument are valid and not terrible to share with others. Yours are also valid and not terrible to share with others. Just as the many thousands of other philosophical arguments within these lines of thought are valid and not terrible to share with others.
  - thatwebdude 10y ago
    Hey, don't push your lack of religion on me! That's as bad as pushing religion on me!
ouid 10y ago
are you dead?
rabidonrails 10y ago
This reminds me of the story of dying wish of the billionaire(?) Edward Reichmann: He died in Jerusalem after a long illness at the age of 80 years old. He was a real estate tycoon who had become a billionaire. When he passed away, he left a vast fortune worth billions of dollars. He left 2 wills directing that one be opened immediately and that the other one to be opened 30 days later. Among the instructions left in his first will was the request that he be buried with a certain pair of socks he owned. The Reichmann children immediately brought the socks to the (religious) burial group, requesting that their father be buried in them. Of course the group refused, reminding the family that it is against Jewish law. They pleaded explaining that their father was a very pious and learned man, and he obviously had a very good reason to make this request, but the group remained firm in their refusal. The family frantically summoned the burial group to the religious courts where the great Rabbi explained to them "Although your father left that request when he was in this world, now that he is in the world of truth, he surely understands that it is in his best interests to be buried without the socks." Mr. Reichmann was buried without his socks. 30 days later, the second will was opened and it read something like this: "My dear children, by now you must have buried me without my socks. I wanted you to truly understand that a man can have a billion dollars, but in the end, he can't even take along one pair of socks!"
- greenhouse_gas 10y ago
  It was Paul (Moshe) Reichmann and his children said that the story never happened
  - rabidonrails 10y ago
    Mythbuster! :)

by pcunite 10y ago

elorm 10y ago

I don't know why you're being downvoted. Maybe it's cause of the Christian bit, but it's totally true. The real meaning of life is to find your purpose, so that you don't die meaninglessly

lordCarbonFiber 10y ago
With all respect possible, that's a terrible thing to be telling people. There is no creator, there is no "meaningful death", and, most importantly, that's 100% ok. Life is far too beautiful to immediately discount it in favor of invisible sky-grandpas and metaphysical meaning. A person's purpose is the sum of their experiences not anything more or anything less.
- trcollinson 10y ago
  Telling people you have all respect possible for their position and then knocking down their comment in this way, I argue, is a fallacy. Both the parent comment to yours and the grandparent comment to yours make a philosophical argument about their own experience and how it made them feel and what they believe are important to their life. The grandparent comment literally says: "Also, the real meaning of life is to find your creator, not make millions of dollars. When they bury your sad fat rear end in the ground, all you've made goes to someone else. The afterlife is a part of life. Read Acts 2:38." Allow me to break this down philosophically from a few points of view. "Also, the real meaning of life is to find your creator, not make millions of dollars." -- Whether you believe your creator is a "invisible sky-grandpa", a set of entirely random events that, given enough time post singularity in a statistical manner, created the perfect set of circumstances to create a small blue ball next to a rather meaningless little helium creating furnace, or an all knowing pasta based creator who's noodle-y appendages may touch you in soul changing ways, philosophically speaking is this sentence not true? I would argue regardless of whether you have an all knowing creator or a random set of events, this sentence stands true. "When they bury your sad fat rear end in the ground, all you've made goes to someone else." -- There is no argument here. When you die, regardless of your beliefs, all you have made seemingly does to someone else. "The afterlife is a part of life." -- This certainly means different things to a person depending on whether they believe in an all knowing creator or a random set of occurrences. Psychologically and philosophically, a part of the human condition is that coming to terms with the inevitability of your own mortality is always and certainly a part of life. "Read Acts 2:38." -- This one cannot be argued as anything other than religious. It's definitely a philosophical passage on what a person should do in their life and what the reward of doing a simple act will be. You can discount it if you wish. I see no harm in it. Your parent comment basically had one sentence of meaning. It was: "The real meaning of life is to find your purpose, so that you don't die meaninglessly". I understand you think this is a "terrible thing to be telling people". But again, philosophically what is the harm in this sentence that makes it so terrible? It seems to me that you and the parent comment are arguing the same exact point. He says "the real meaning of life is to find your purpose" and then goes on to explain that in finding your purpose you don't die meaningless. You argue that "a person's purpose is the sum of their experience." If the sum of their experience is less than another persons does this balanced equation make their life's purpose less meaningful? If so then you have argued the same as the parent comment. If the sum of a persons experience is irrelevant in comparison to everyone else's then I would suggest that it would seem the sum of their experiences is not a person's purpose after all. Deep philosophical points indeed. Nevertheless, I don't believe you have shown why these comments are terrible things to tell people. These are philosophical arguments about the human condition. Their argument are valid and not terrible to share with others. Yours are also valid and not terrible to share with others. Just as the many thousands of other philosophical arguments within these lines of thought are valid and not terrible to share with others.
- thatwebdude 10y ago
  Hey, don't push your lack of religion on me! That's as bad as pushing religion on me!

ouid 10y ago

are you dead?

rabidonrails 10y ago

This reminds me of the story of dying wish of the billionaire(?) Edward Reichmann: He died in Jerusalem after a long illness at the age of 80 years old. He was a real estate tycoon who had become a billionaire. When he passed away, he left a vast fortune worth billions of dollars. He left 2 wills directing that one be opened immediately and that the other one to be opened 30 days later. Among the instructions left in his first will was the request that he be buried with a certain pair of socks he owned. The Reichmann children immediately brought the socks to the (religious) burial group, requesting that their father be buried in them. Of course the group refused, reminding the family that it is against Jewish law. They pleaded explaining that their father was a very pious and learned man, and he obviously had a very good reason to make this request, but the group remained firm in their refusal. The family frantically summoned the burial group to the religious courts where the great Rabbi explained to them "Although your father left that request when he was in this world, now that he is in the world of truth, he surely understands that it is in his best interests to be buried without the socks." Mr. Reichmann was buried without his socks. 30 days later, the second will was opened and it read something like this: "My dear children, by now you must have buried me without my socks. I wanted you to truly understand that a man can have a billion dollars, but in the end, he can't even take along one pair of socks!"

greenhouse_gas 10y ago
It was Paul (Moshe) Reichmann and his children said that the story never happened
- rabidonrails 10y ago
  Mythbuster! :)