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I'm not totally sure how the traffic management works, but what I would like to know is how services like this will be able to scale? What happens when there is

I'm not totally sure how the traffic management works, but what I would like to know is how services like this will be able to scale? What happens when there is a Pub with millions of users? Does it creep to a halt? Is there a need for dedicated Pub machines? If so, Who funds/maintains them? Does this lead to subscriptions? Decentralized social networks seems like an inevitable progression as internet users become more aware of their privacy and ways they can improve online relationships and ...."social networking"

nvr219 10y ago
It's not meant to scale imho
- staltz 10y ago
  It is certainly meant to scale, it's an eventually consistent decentralized database. Centralized services historically have difficulty in scaling, but distributed and decentralized are by design easier. In Scuttlebutt, we don't need to have everything connected to everything, so it easily scalable. You just need to give up the idea of a global singleton, global search indexes, that type of stuff.
hexmiles 10y ago
I'm not sure how this project in particular handle it, but i see quite a few project that handle it by simply using the "follower" for a user as their replica. Since the message is signed there is no risk of being alterated or forget, so i can get the message of user FOO from user BAR as long BAR is "following" FOO. This scale well since the more popular you get more peer can replicate your messages and post.
staltz 10y ago
It scales by each "circle of friends" or community having its dedicated pub, set up by some tech-savvy person. Pubs should be easy enough to setup for anyone who knows what a VPS is. A community or circle of friends is usually not millions of people. For the "social media aspect", like in Twitter, we're looking at making alternative types of pubs. Imagine having a pub dedicated to only replicating your content (and no one else's). Or multiple of these. So that whoever wants to follow (if you're like Elon Musk famous) can just follow one of your pubs.
- olleromam91 10y ago
  I love the idea of a decentralized community. I would just be skeptical that even 1% of the population knows what a VPS is, and fewer would have the urge to set one up to talk to their friends. Not suggesting that you need to have a global audience, but just something I was curious about. Thanks for your reply.

nvr219 10y ago

It's not meant to scale imho

staltz 10y ago
It is certainly meant to scale, it's an eventually consistent decentralized database. Centralized services historically have difficulty in scaling, but distributed and decentralized are by design easier. In Scuttlebutt, we don't need to have everything connected to everything, so it easily scalable. You just need to give up the idea of a global singleton, global search indexes, that type of stuff.

hexmiles 10y ago

I'm not sure how this project in particular handle it, but i see quite a few project that handle it by simply using the "follower" for a user as their replica. Since the message is signed there is no risk of being alterated or forget, so i can get the message of user FOO from user BAR as long BAR is "following" FOO. This scale well since the more popular you get more peer can replicate your messages and post.

staltz 10y ago

It scales by each "circle of friends" or community having its dedicated pub, set up by some tech-savvy person. Pubs should be easy enough to setup for anyone who knows what a VPS is. A community or circle of friends is usually not millions of people. For the "social media aspect", like in Twitter, we're looking at making alternative types of pubs. Imagine having a pub dedicated to only replicating your content (and no one else's). Or multiple of these. So that whoever wants to follow (if you're like Elon Musk famous) can just follow one of your pubs.

olleromam91 10y ago
I love the idea of a decentralized community. I would just be skeptical that even 1% of the population knows what a VPS is, and fewer would have the urge to set one up to talk to their friends. Not suggesting that you need to have a global audience, but just something I was curious about. Thanks for your reply.