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I completely agree. I'm surprised by how many people who know about the ME are so blasé about it - it may have some features useful to some people, some of the

by __jal 10y ago

I completely agree. I'm surprised by how many people who know about the ME are so blasé about it - it may have some features useful to some people, some of the time, but as a whole the IME is malware. If there were a comparable chip at twice the price, I would happily buy it.

ams6110 10y ago
Well -- do AMD chips have it or something like it?
- hedora 10y ago
  I believe this is their equivalent: http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/security# http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/s... Not sure if you can turn it off, or buy a decent cpu without it.
- timonovici 10y ago
  Of course they do - you'd think that they would just lag behind, while Intel is implementing it's malware, and selling it to corporations? It's called AMD PSP
- pmontra 10y ago
  Both AMD and Intel fail the test. From the Libreboot FAQs > It is unlikely that any post-2008 Intel hardware will ever be supported in libreboot, due to severe security and freedom issues; so severe, that the libreboot project recommends avoiding all modern Intel hardware > It is extremely unlikely that any post-2013 AMD hardware will ever be supported in libreboot, due to severe security and freedom issues; so severe, that the libreboot project recommends avoiding all modern AMD hardware. One wonders what we are left with and where Libreboot will be in five years, when all the hardware it can run on will be obsolete. It seems somebody managed to disable ME on some hardware, let's hope there is more to come. However I am not hopeful that they'll be able to do it quickly for newly released processors.
- jhasse 10y ago
  They have it. Removing it was the #1 question on the AMA on Reddit last month: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5x4hxu/we_are_amd_creators_of_athlon_radeon_and_other/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5x4hxu/we_are_amd_crea...
timonovici 10y ago
While the present may look grim, I keep my fingers crossed for that lowRISC processor - they should be out this year, optimistically. On the other hand, X200 is good enough for my laptop needs, and while I don't have one yet, an ASUS KGPE-D16 workstation is one hell of a beast - 32 cores, up to 256 GB or RAM.

by __jal 10y ago

ams6110 10y ago

Well -- do AMD chips have it or something like it?

hedora 10y ago
I believe this is their equivalent: http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/security# http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/software-technologies/s... Not sure if you can turn it off, or buy a decent cpu without it.
timonovici 10y ago
Of course they do - you'd think that they would just lag behind, while Intel is implementing it's malware, and selling it to corporations? It's called AMD PSP
pmontra 10y ago
Both AMD and Intel fail the test. From the Libreboot FAQs > It is unlikely that any post-2008 Intel hardware will ever be supported in libreboot, due to severe security and freedom issues; so severe, that the libreboot project recommends avoiding all modern Intel hardware > It is extremely unlikely that any post-2013 AMD hardware will ever be supported in libreboot, due to severe security and freedom issues; so severe, that the libreboot project recommends avoiding all modern AMD hardware. One wonders what we are left with and where Libreboot will be in five years, when all the hardware it can run on will be obsolete. It seems somebody managed to disable ME on some hardware, let's hope there is more to come. However I am not hopeful that they'll be able to do it quickly for newly released processors.
jhasse 10y ago
They have it. Removing it was the #1 question on the AMA on Reddit last month: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5x4hxu/we_are_amd_creators_of_athlon_radeon_and_other/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5x4hxu/we_are_amd_crea...

timonovici 10y ago

While the present may look grim, I keep my fingers crossed for that lowRISC processor - they should be out this year, optimistically. On the other hand, X200 is good enough for my laptop needs, and while I don't have one yet, an ASUS KGPE-D16 workstation is one hell of a beast - 32 cores, up to 256 GB or RAM.