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by ultimoo 10y ago
https://twitter.com/ALT_uscis/status/850100381560578052 https://twitter.com/ALT_uscis/status/850100381560578052
"well now on CNN! and we gained 17000 followers in less than 30 minutes. Thank you CBP/Trump"
I just learnt about the Streisand Effect this afternoon -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
- posguy 10y agoYep, try and sue or suppress someone and you run a real risk of having it blow up on you, defeating your intent to keep it quiet. Sometimes the best action is to do nothing, and let it blow over.
- mysterypie 10y agoI wish it worked the way you said, but the Streisand Effect is a myth. If you've worked in customer service, public relations, as a manager, you know that 99% of the time when something is suppressed the problem goes away. It's just as true from the opposite point of view. If you're a customer, client, or user, and your complaint or comment is suppressed, 99% of the time you do nothing or it goes nowhere. Once in a long while, something blows up but it's not the rule.
- plaguuuuuu 10y agoThere's also the effect where the general public never notices the 99% that are suppressed, so the counter-examples to the streisand effect are hidden
- pepve 10y agoSo what you're saying is that the Streisand Effect is not a myth, it's just a rare occurence.
- SophosQ 10y agoI believe the definition of Streisand effect requires an addendum stating that it applies only when a large audience is involved. Customers or clients are individuals who're bereft of the social connections that'd provide solidarity and encourage them to follow-up on their complaints unlike that provided by a larger audience. Furthermore , clients are just tired of dealing with what is often BS from the customer-care dept. As they try to suppress the complaint and therefore prefer to take the easier route which is often to just switch their services. Furthermore, I'm not even considering perseverant personalities who burn brighter when someone tries to suppress the bonfire by blowing at it.
- libria 10y agoStriesand Effect is about censorship/exposure and is not relevant to this case which is about seeking the identity of the poster presumably because they are a federal employee. It doesn't seem like they're trying to do anything quietly, just get information for now.
- sigmar 10y agoAre you being sarcastic? They weren't going to find out who it is and sit on their hands. They would have fired them.
- libria 10y agoTrump has countless vocal detractors. Trying to silence a solitary one seems pointless, though I wouldn't entirely put that past this administration. Am I misreading Streisand effect? Trying to prevent a fact from becoming well known causes it to become well known. The general message "Trump does bad things" is not a secret.
- zht 10y agois it pointless? It sends a message that others that do this WILL be unmasked, fired, and possibly have their lives ruined. fewer people will do this if they see that there are real consequences to dissent.
- libria 10y agoSuppose that were true. Then they would want to conduct this as publicly and noisily as possible in order to propagate that fear. Which would be counter to what Streisand Effect suggests.
- dpark 10y agoYou'd want to do this loudly enough that other dissidents hear and are afraid but not so loudly that other citizens get word and potentially join the dissidents' side. You don't want a public lawsuit. You want Twitter to silently hand over the data and for the last tweet from the account to be "Got fired today :(".
- marknutter 10y agoWouldn't the Streisand Effect require that the government asked twitter to shut the account down, rather than just reveal the identity? What suppression is happening here (beyond wild speculation)?