The IETF is an open forum where anyone can participate. If you want your voice heard, join the mailing list and make your suggestions. Also, I don't appreciate

The IETF is an open forum where anyone can participate. If you want your voice heard, join the mailing list and make your suggestions. Also, I don't appreciate this mindless bashing on XMPP. All IETF protocols are encouraged (required?) to be fairly secure, which entails things like TLS and SASL. Once you get beyond that, XMPP is not very complex at all. If you have a specific complaint, I'd love to hear it. The XSF is basically as open as the IETF and we're always interested in feedback, but we'd appreciate it if it was constructive.