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Bit of feedback: when you download the desktop application, it prompts for a desired name, image, and description. It's unclear whether this can be changed lat

by rattray 10y ago

Bit of feedback: when you download the desktop application, it prompts for a desired name, image, and description. It's unclear whether this can be changed later, and I'm not yet sure whether I want to use my real identity or a throwaway. After creating an account with the default ¿randomly? generated name, I tried to use an invite obtained from http://198.211.122.115/invited http://198.211.122.115/invited which was linked from https://github.com/staltz/easy-ssb-pub https://github.com/staltz/easy-ssb-pub. All I got back was "An error occured (sic) while attempting to redeem invite. could not connect to sbot" It worked with http://pub.locksmithdon.net/ http://pub.locksmithdon.net/ though I feel a bit odd trusting a "locksmith" I've never heard of to stream lots of data to my harddrive... It's cool that anyone can host a pub – basically, an instance of FB/Twitter/Gmail, it seems – but things 1) will get expensive for them, and it's unclear how they'll fund that – and 2) now I have to trust random people on the internet – not only to be nice, but also secure. As a "random technically aware netizen", I honestly trust fooplesoft more, since they have a multi-billion-dollar reputation to protect. (Not that I trust fooplesoft).

staltz 10y ago
These pubs you mentioned are suffering under the large amount of traffic generated by HN and they were not designed for this load. Ideally hosting your own pub should be as easy as possible. My goal is to have it possible under a Heroku "Click to deploy" button or Zeit `now staltz/easy-ssb-pub` so that we can have more pubs. By the way, my pubs are public just because I chose to, but I may take that down if I want. No data would be destroyed, since you'd have all that locally and you can connect to any other pub and replicate through that.
- ezdiy 10y ago
  All pubs on the wiki are indeed overloaded. Interestingly if one sets up their own, the other pubs eventually sync with it, only the desktop client seems to be unhappy with laggy pubs. Is that by design? FWIW, you can use pub.lua.cz:8008:@xYSW6eVu8gTS/nTSXZiH97dgKZ+wp7NkomR6WKK/PBI=.ed25519~iQ16RuvjKZqy/RhiXXmW9+6wuZNq+SBI8evG3PotxvI= if you have trouble connecting to the ones on github. Feel free to add it to the wiki, I do plan to run it long term, but I am not a github user.
substack 10y ago
You don't need to trust the security of pubs. Validation of messages happens through cryptographic signing and public messages are public anyways. You also don't need to trust that pubs will be online much because your followers will also help host your content.
- rattray 10y ago
  > public messages are public anyways Right, but someone I trust could have their message corrupted, no? eg; some political leader intends to write "everybody vote for Alice" and it is modified to read "everybody vote for Carol". Is this possible? (I generally trust FB not to do this because their business would suffer if they were caught, for example – not so with ephemeral pubs)
  - cel 10y ago
    Each message includes a signature by its author of its content, so it can't be falsified (unless the author's key is compromised)
  - yoshuaw 10y ago
    Nope, there's proper crypto in place to prevent this (each user has their messages signed with a keypair)
- mundo 10y ago
  So, if I post a GB worth of diary entries, who ends up caching it by default? Just my followers? People I follow? Pubs I connect to?
  - cel 10y ago
    > So, if I post a GB worth of diary entries, who ends up caching it by default? Just my followers? People I follow? Pubs I connect to? your followers, their followers, and their followers (assuming everyone is using the default replication settings). These may include pubs or people you follow. If you are able to connect to a pub then most likely it is willing to replicate your feed.

by rattray 10y ago

staltz 10y ago

These pubs you mentioned are suffering under the large amount of traffic generated by HN and they were not designed for this load. Ideally hosting your own pub should be as easy as possible. My goal is to have it possible under a Heroku "Click to deploy" button or Zeit `now staltz/easy-ssb-pub` so that we can have more pubs. By the way, my pubs are public just because I chose to, but I may take that down if I want. No data would be destroyed, since you'd have all that locally and you can connect to any other pub and replicate through that.

ezdiy 10y ago
All pubs on the wiki are indeed overloaded. Interestingly if one sets up their own, the other pubs eventually sync with it, only the desktop client seems to be unhappy with laggy pubs. Is that by design? FWIW, you can use pub.lua.cz:8008:@xYSW6eVu8gTS/nTSXZiH97dgKZ+wp7NkomR6WKK/PBI=.ed25519~iQ16RuvjKZqy/RhiXXmW9+6wuZNq+SBI8evG3PotxvI= if you have trouble connecting to the ones on github. Feel free to add it to the wiki, I do plan to run it long term, but I am not a github user.

substack 10y ago

You don't need to trust the security of pubs. Validation of messages happens through cryptographic signing and public messages are public anyways. You also don't need to trust that pubs will be online much because your followers will also help host your content.

rattray 10y ago
> public messages are public anyways Right, but someone I trust could have their message corrupted, no? eg; some political leader intends to write "everybody vote for Alice" and it is modified to read "everybody vote for Carol". Is this possible? (I generally trust FB not to do this because their business would suffer if they were caught, for example – not so with ephemeral pubs)
- cel 10y ago
  Each message includes a signature by its author of its content, so it can't be falsified (unless the author's key is compromised)
- yoshuaw 10y ago
  Nope, there's proper crypto in place to prevent this (each user has their messages signed with a keypair)
mundo 10y ago
So, if I post a GB worth of diary entries, who ends up caching it by default? Just my followers? People I follow? Pubs I connect to?
- cel 10y ago
  > So, if I post a GB worth of diary entries, who ends up caching it by default? Just my followers? People I follow? Pubs I connect to? your followers, their followers, and their followers (assuming everyone is using the default replication settings). These may include pubs or people you follow. If you are able to connect to a pub then most likely it is willing to replicate your feed.